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If not for Palin on the ticket, conservatives would have stayed home even more and McCain would have really been shellacked.
Chafee lost because he had an R next to his name and nothing else, hell he went into Election Day with approvals around 60%. As far as Palin, she hurt McCain. Conservatives would not have stayed home without her, her going on the ticket did however move more moderates over to Obama (which he won 60-39)
Chafee lost because he had an R next to his name and nothing else, hell he went into Election Day with approvals around 60%. As far as Palin, she hurt McCain. Conservatives would not have stayed home without her, her going on the ticket did however move more moderates over to Obama (which he won 60-39)
That's so untrue; McCain would have done worse without Palin than with her, though it probably did not make a huge difference in the end. The McCain campaign surged in the polls after the Palin choice and it was the LB collapse in mid-Sept that really derailed the campaign. Why people though Obama would be a better choice for the Economy is beyond me, but that LB and financial collapse in Sept 08 helped Obama tremendously. Palin helped with women and real conservatives. The people who hate her and call her a moron are mainly (D) hacks to begin. Think about it... the same people who say they considered McCain until Palin are the same people who recommend that the GOP run a moderate (like McCain) who they wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole.
Chafee lost because he had an R next to his name and nothing else, hell he went into Election Day with approvals around 60%. As far as Palin, she hurt McCain. Conservatives would not have stayed home without her, her going on the ticket did however move more moderates over to Obama (which he won 60-39)
Chaffey was a liberal in republican clothing - one of those moderates the Left and the media keep saying the GOP must embrace. So far, every one of those dem-lites have lost.
You have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to what conservatives are thinking.
Who do you think was pulling in those enormous crowds during the campaign? Certainly NOT McCain. He was not embraced by conservatives like Palin was. If not for her, he would have been thoroughly creamed, instead of the 6% they lost by. It was a well-known and REPORTED fact that conservatives were not at all happy with McCain.
What moved the Indies was the financial meltdown, perfectly timed I might add. Before that McCain/Palin were actually ahead in the polls.
With Scozzafava quitting Hoffman better win. It would be a disaster for the Conservatives if a Democrat beat them in a district which the previous Republican won with over 60% of the vote.
You have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to what conservatives are thinking.
Who do you think was pulling in those enormous crowds during the campaign? Certainly NOT McCain. He was not embraced by conservatives like Palin was. If not for her, he would have been thoroughly creamed, instead of the 6% they lost by. It was a well-known and REPORTED fact that conservatives were not at all happy with McCain.
This is exactly right. Does anyone tell the (D) party to not run leftists like Kerry, Obama, HR Clinton, and others? Is their party not run by lunatics like Pelosi, Obama, Reid (formerly moderate but forced to go hard left), Durbin (somewhat similar), Schumer and other Big Government types?
Why have two parties if they don't offer choice and one party is just a slightly watered down version of the other? People who want Big Government, higher taxes, more regulations, more unions, more spending, more debt, catering to illegals, Cap-and-Trade, weak counterterrorism and so on already have a political party that represents this. Let's give the rest of us a choice.
With Scozzafava quitting Hoffman better win. It would be a disaster for the Conservatives if a Democrat beat them in a district which the previous Republican won with over 60% of the vote.
Those Scazza supporters can't be too happy with the way things turned out. If they are mad enough, they just might stay home or cast their lot with the democrat, who is more in line with their ideology.
Nate Silver has a good analysis of Scazza supporters, who really cannot be called conservative. If they don't get behind Hoffman, the dem could very well take the seat.
Those Scazza supporters can't be too happy with the way things turned out. If they are mad enough, they just might stay home or cast their lot with the democrat, who is more in line with their ideology.
Nate Silver has a good analysis of Scazza supporters, who really cannot be called conservative. If they don't get behind Hoffman, the dem could very well take the seat.
That should teach the GOP guru's a lesson.
The bigger test is in Virginia.
I disagree about Virginia being a bigger test of national sentiment. Hoffman has really campaigned on national issues as opposed to district issues and McDonnell has focused much more on Virginia state issues (taxes and transportation) as opposed to national issues. On top of that 7/10 say Obama is not a factor in whom they will vote for in the governors race.
Those Scazza supporters can't be too happy with the way things turned out. If they are mad enough, they just might stay home or cast their lot with the democrat, who is more in line with their ideology.
Nate Silver has a good analysis of Scazza supporters, who really cannot be called conservative. If they don't get behind Hoffman, the dem could very well take the seat.
That should teach the GOP guru's a lesson.
The bigger test is in Virginia.
Every faction of the GOP is now officially behind Hoffman. The House GOP Chairman, Gingrich, the RNC. If Hoffman loses in a district which the previous conservative Republican won with over 60% of the vote it would be a disaster for the conservative movement.
I would actually be happy with a Hoffman win because it will motivate and embolden the right wing conservative base and that will lead to the nomination of much more conservative candidates in swing districts. This will help the Democrats keep their majority in the House.
On the other hand an Owens victory while bad for the conservative wing will hurt the Democrats even more in 2010 because it will show the GOP that far right wing conservatism doesn't float well with the people.
So it is a win-lose, lose-win situation depending on the outcome.
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