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Old 08-09-2016, 07:02 AM
 
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Because somebody spoke up about how this country has become a bunch of *******. He is telling the truth. And then he get rebutted by a transsexual ? I'm with Clint. Not with Hollywood's weirdism.

 
Old 08-09-2016, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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A person says the truth. And people conspire to penalize him. How nice.
 
Old 08-09-2016, 07:23 AM
 
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some say Hollywood should stop funding his films and actors should refuse to work with him
Yes, Clint is clearly the most controversial director in Hollywood.
 
Old 08-09-2016, 07:37 AM
 
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You should be scared of us.
Not because you are black, but because you are a weak minded follower. We hate that.
Prove that I'm a "weak minded follower". Prove it.
 
Old 08-09-2016, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Harlingen, Tx
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I don't think it's black-balling.

An average film now costs $40,000,000 - $80,000,000 to make.

Investors want to earn a profit. That means covering tens of millions of dollars...plus that profit. It's a question of risk. Turn part of the audience off, and ticket sales dip, thus threatening profits.
I doubt he is worried anymore than the other celebrities expressing their opinions.
 
Old 08-09-2016, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Harlingen, Tx
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Yes, Clint is clearly the most controversial director in Hollywood.
He doesn't even make the top ten.
 
Old 08-09-2016, 09:22 AM
 
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FWIW, the OP said some in Hollywood. Most don't seem to care about Eastwood's political leanings. The few voices who are denouncing Clint Eastwood do not represent all of Hollywood.

Take Bradley Cooper for example.

He portrayed Chris Kyle in Eastwood's American Sniper and he has recently gotten heat for being at the DNC. If Cooper is a Dem then he certainly seems to respect Eastwood enough to be the lead in his film while disagreeing with him politically.

As for morality, is it morally wrong not to financially support someone because you don't agree with some of their views?
For an individual no....but history is littered with group-think oppression throughout the arts, sciences etc.

Maybe moral is the wrong word but unless the person is advocating something like genocide etc. then I think it gets into a grey area if it becomes an actual movement.

Let me give an example.
1) Bob doesn't shop at Pete's flower shop because Pete is gay. Now I don't agree with Bob but it's his right to do so. I think we can all agree on that.

2) Bob organizes a boycott of Pete's flower shop and ALSO pressures people that do shop there with coercion, threat of being included in the boycott, yelling at customer from across the street as they enter and such tactics.

I personally think #2 takes things too far and at some point impinges on Pete's pursuit of happiness. However, this tactic is used by various groups from anti-abortion protesters to Chick-fil-a protesters etc.

This is the type if tactic that could be used on a Hollywood actor. Not the refusing to work with them but the pressure put on people who do. That starts to become a blacklisting conspiracy.
 
Old 08-09-2016, 09:28 AM
 
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Prove that I'm a "weak minded follower". Prove it.
You may have missed my post #108 where I asked you if you still think Hillary is racist and if you plan on voting for her?

If you don't think she is racist then do you think that it was instead a campaign action aimed at swaying votes?

This wasn't one incident and she got only about 10% of the black vote where this election she'll be back up around 90%. So it's an interesting topic to revisit.
 
Old 08-09-2016, 09:37 AM
 
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You may have missed my post #108 where I asked you if you still think Hillary is racist and if you plan on voting for her?

If you don't think she is racist then do you think that it was instead a campaign action aimed at swaying votes?

This wasn't one incident and she got only about 10% of the black vote where this election she'll be back up around 90%. So it's an interesting topic to revisit.
Maybe I missed it. I haven't paid any attention to Hilary until now. I never said I had any fondness for Hillary. I don't trust her. I don't trust Trump either. And this thread is specifically about Trump and Eastwood.

I can vote for a third candidate. I don't have to decide between just Clinton and Trump.
 
Old 08-09-2016, 11:02 AM
 
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Maybe I missed it. I haven't paid any attention to Hilary until now. I never said I had any fondness for Hillary. I don't trust her. I don't trust Trump either. And this thread is specifically about Trump and Eastwood.

I can vote for a third candidate. I don't have to decide between just Clinton and Trump.
Whoa now you were the one that went on a tirade about Trump\supporters being racist and it's directly comparable because in 2008 it was Hillary\supporters that were deemed the racists.

Now Hillary is the clear front runner for the people, many of which where lambasting her as racist just 8 years ago.

You're dodging the question and you know that what I'm getting at is how much the message to portray someone is often pushed in election years....it's done to ALL politicians...whether it's honesty or racism or competency or loyalty to their religion instead of the country or ties to Russians or Sauds blah blah blah.

Is it possible that neither Hillary nor Trump are particularily racist but that any gaffe, wording of statements, past associations....anything are being used as "A ha! See they're racist!"?

Maybe not you but it's pretty clear that a lot of voters in 2008 fell for it, it's a good example of painting your opponent in a political fight.

So, I'll ask again. Did you think Hillary was racist before? What about now?
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