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Who said that every blonde people with blue eyes in Ireland came from Scandinavia? That's your own invention and then you try to make an argument out of it? By the way, you should show more respect, it's not my fault if you feel insulted when you get to know that maybe some of your blood is not germanic but south european...
So, I said that with the scandinavian vikings because this makes a difference. If some centuries ago the population of celtic Spain and Irelan looked alike, some time later arabs came to Spain and Vikings to Ireland. So you can understand why some Irish and Spaniards still look the same and why some of them don't. It is just a matter of statistics, I never said every single blonde in Ireland came from Scandinavia, but the fact that the vikings came makes a higher rate of blonde people in Ireland, that's all. See the nonsense?
You can keep posting pictures of those girls there, but I repeat, Ireland is more than a bunch of pale girls.
One question, have you ever been in Europe?
Since you're against girls, these are Irish guys for you!
You asking if I have ever been to Europe? Ha!ha!ha!ha! I have. I have been to Spain too during the early 1990's, in Valencia and Madrid precisely. In my humble opinion, Spaniards definitely don't look Irish. They are more like Portuguese, Greeks or Italians, in America they will be more similar to the White Hispanics not the average Anglos.
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I'm very into genetics and have seen loads of Irish results. I've had a few members of my family genetically tested so I can tell you the Irish are one of the most distant groups to Spanish or Portuguese people using dna. The closest population to the Spanish are the Southern French and Northern Italian and in the British Isles the closest population to any Spanish group (usually Catalonia) are the Cornish and then other English areas. The most distant populations in the British Isles to Spanish and Portuguese are the Irish and the Scots. Believe me they are not close populations and I say this just as fact. It is just not accurate to say otherwise.
If any Spanish or Portuguese has had their dna tested and uploaded to Gedmatch they can see this for themselves.
Yes as a whole, the Dutch, English are more closely related to the Spaniards/Basques than the Irish and Scots. Though all are still not closely related to Spaniards/Basques.
Who said that every blonde people with blue eyes in Ireland came from Scandinavia? That's your own invention and then you try to make an argument out of it? By the way, you should show more respect, it's not my fault if you feel insulted when you get to know that maybe some of your blood is not germanic but south european...
So, I said that with the scandinavian vikings because this makes a difference. If some centuries ago the population of celtic Spain and Irelan looked alike, some time later arabs came to Spain and Vikings to Ireland. So you can understand why some Irish and Spaniards still look the same and why some of them don't. It is just a matter of statistics, I never said every single blonde in Ireland came from Scandinavia, but the fact that the vikings came makes a higher rate of blonde people in Ireland, that's all. See the nonsense?
You can keep posting pictures of those girls there, but I repeat, Ireland is more than a bunch of pale girls.
One question, have you ever been in Europe?
I have never said that the Irish are Germanic, they are obviously predominantly Keltic! Trust me I don't feel insulted at all! Being Celtic doesn't mean being Southern European, you are just confused. I was just telling you facts and not myths. If you believed that before the Viking invasion that Ireland and Spain were the same, you are just having a sweet dream, they were not. Most of the Irish population is still descended from the Pre-Viking population and they have a much higher frequency of blue eyes, fair skin, red/blonde hair than Spaniards.
It's quite curious, because according to the same map, L-21 suffered a change once entering the Iberian peninsula.
But R1b is new, very new. Take into account that 8.000 years ago there were rather large "cities" with many houses in western Europe, and they were not hunter gatherers.. for them hunting was an sport.
The oldest city in western Europe, Cadiz, is 3.000 years old and was founded by Phoenicians, but now other large settlements have been found everywhere that are far older, settlements far away from the land. They were not R1b.
Or even take the oldest Homo Sapiens in Europe, 30.000 years ago.
So it seems, everything was erased by those very recent invaders.
So the remains in Cambridge attest what Scythes said, there were pirates from Jutland and the North in England before the Roman Invasion, and that Britanny's population was not substantially different from a genetic point of view to the one existing after invasions.
Take into account that all Western Europe not protected by PAX ROMANA was constantly invades by those people, they were just like ROMAS today.
In fact, the excuse Romans always had to invade territories was to protect them against barbarians, Cimbrians, Berbers, Parthians, Marcomanii, Jutes, etc.
R1b has had constant mutations and these are called snps (Single nucleotide polymorphisms). L21 is not very common in Spain. The branch that is more common in Spain is DF27 they are different branches of R1b. P312 was the branch that both L21 and DF27 split from and they split in Germany. R1b isn't very new it is many thousands of years old but it is relatively new in Europe.
No the remains in Cambridge don't attest to what Sykes said at all. The Hinxton 1 and 4 samples are similar to modern Irish and Scots populations. They are very northern shifted even more so than present day English people.
Otherwise I don't know what you are not understanding.
But in the Cambridge finding, 2000 years old, there were three Anglo-Saxon females.
If Britanny was conquered in 43AD, it means that those "sea people" were already present in the population before Romans.
Romans came to protect Britons, as the invasions were growing in importance.
What I don't quite understand is the nexus between R1b and language, According to scholars, R1b is related to Indoeuropean languages..bronze..horses, etc. But people with a very high concentration of R1b spoke non-indoeuropean languages.
The vast majority of high R1b people speak Indo-European languages. Just because the Basque are different doesn't really change that fact. There is no doubt that R1b is from the Steppes and there could be other reasons why the Basque are a hold out in regards to language. The Basque have slightly different genetics in that they lack West Asian so there is obviously some puzzles to work out for the Basque.
But in the Cambridge finding, 2000 years old, there were three Anglo-Saxon females.
If Britanny was conquered in 43AD, it means that those "sea people" were already present in the population before Romans.
Romans came to protect Britons, as the invasions were growing in importance.
What I don't quite understand is the nexus between R1b and language, According to scholars, R1b is related to Indoeuropean languages..bronze..horses, etc. But people with a very high concentration of R1b spoke non-indoeuropean languages.
Romans never came to protect, but to colonize and exploit them. The same way, European nations colonized Africa.
Blumenau, Brazil is known for it's German heritage not exactly Portuguese. Those people in the video are of primarily German, Italian ,and Azorean Portuguese ancestry in descending order.
Those are mostly White Brazilians and your point is? White Brazilians are Portuguese, other Iberians, Italian, Greek, Romanian, German, Luxembourger, Swiss, Slav, Dutch, Flemish, French, Walloon,Balt, Scandinavian, British and Irish. It's like me showing a video of a bunch of White Americans. Unless it is a Norwegian-American or Irish-American, etc... festivals then that is case.
The Spanish and Portuguese languages are indeed beautiful languages. A heritage to the Iberians coming from Roman colonization for more than 600 years. Hispania was the name of Iberia during Roman colonization. The term "Hispanic" is so similar.Hispania from whence came the word "Spain".
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