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Old 10-15-2012, 11:18 PM
 
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Originally Posted by russiaonline View Post
US is the most popular target - especially when yankees murder some kids, adopted in Russia.

Your conspiracy theory is ridiculous, because the government has nothing to do with such outrages.
What "conspiracy?" What "outrages?"
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Old 10-15-2012, 11:59 PM
 
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I don't get it - and WHO is bringing the said Juvenile Justice in Russia if not the Russian government?
Of course Russian government. This is subject to a lot of criticism - and at such time Finland began hunt (at least it looks like that) on ex-Russian families.

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But it's the Russian government that makes people unhappy and angry - what it has got to do with Finns???
WTF don't you understand? People want government to take action.

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PS. I'm honestly becoming a bigger fan of the Soviet system when it comes to upbringing of children)))
There was no insanity there in that respect, just a lot of common sense...
That's why many (but not all) Russians oppose the "Western" system.

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What "conspiracy?" What "outrages?"
The government didn't start the media and public outrage. Believing this makes you a conspiracist.
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Old 10-16-2012, 12:01 AM
 
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Considering the amount of russian families here, that's very low.
This makes claims of a genocide invalid - but that's it.
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Old 10-16-2012, 12:23 AM
 
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Originally Posted by russiaonline View Post
US is the most popular target - especially when yankees murder some kids, adopted in Russia.

Your conspiracy theory is ridiculous, because the government has nothing to do with such outrages.
The real question is why are Yankees adopting Russian children in the first place? Why is such a supposedly rich country, like Russia not able to provide for its own children so they have to be adopted by foreigners?

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Old 10-16-2012, 12:45 AM
 
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The real question is why are Yankees adopting Russian children in the first place?
Because they are stupid enough to believe that it's easy to do in Russia. Just as easy it is for Russians, as hard it is for foreigners.

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Why is such a rich, supposedly country, like Russia able to provide for its own children so they have to be adopted by the foreigners?
The government and private parties provide them... generally more than such kids receive in US. There are some ethical questions about placing mentally disabled in "reservations", but that's not about finances.
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Old 10-16-2012, 12:59 AM
 
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Because they are stupid enough to believe that it's easy to do in Russia. Just as easy it is for Russians, as hard it is for foreigners.


The government and private parties provide them... generally more than such kids receive in US. There are some ethical questions about placing mentally disabled in "reservations", but that's not about finances.
No Ivan. These Yankees go to Russia to rescue these kids from terrible conditions on Russian orphanages. I have seen pictures and videos.
Your great country is not doing a great job protecting its own children.
After all your GDP per capita is lower than in Gabon.
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Old 10-16-2012, 01:25 AM
 
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No Ivan. These Yankees go to Russia to rescue these kids from terrible conditions on Russian orphanages. I have seen pictures and videos.
Pics like that?



Oops, it's no Russia...




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It's very honorable to want to save someone, but it would be really great, if they also studied a bit of geography first.

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Your great country is not doing a great job protecting its own children.
Am I mistaken, and it's US not Russia provides free education with priority admission, and $100,000+ apartments to state kids?

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After all your GDP per capita is lower than in Gabon.
At least it's not lower than your grey matter - now that would be a disaster!
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Old 10-16-2012, 05:30 AM
 
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Now you're claiming Russian orphanages are nice?! Amazing.
Which orphanages did you volunteer at? Because my wife and I volunteered at two and conditions were abysmal.
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Old 10-16-2012, 05:35 AM
 
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Now you're claiming Russian orphanages are nice?!
They are different, like everything else. But all have one thing in common - they don't endanger kids (other than sometimes giving them too much freedom, which they use in bad ways).

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Which orphanages did you volunteer at? Because my wife and I volunteered at two and conditions were abysmal.
Why don't you show, what you mean by abysmal? I'm almost sure that there are photos of those two internats online - or at least you can find some that look similar.
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:04 AM
 
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The real question is why are Yankees adopting Russian children in the first place?
The nineties... the New Russians... remember? - things that you are denying.

There was no need for Russians to put their children in orphanages back in Soviet times, ( unless parents were really unfit,) since they've had enough to feed them. But when the new group came in picture - the New Russians, the ones who "wanted to have houses and decent clothing" ( lol) - that's when a lot of Russians were forced to put their children to orphanages, since the price of a loaf of bread became equal to a daily salary.
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