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Old 07-14-2014, 09:25 AM
 
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Yes, I see. But I guess that was also the effect of that Poland was mostly an agrarian country at that time, so for a British tourist it looked "non-western".

Even more strange thing was that Poles themselves believed that they were relative... not to Tatars, of course, but to the other Eastern nation - Sarmatians.
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Old 07-14-2014, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Paris, ÃŽle-de-France, France
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Westernized East European Country - Poland
Easternized West European Country - Austria
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Old 07-14-2014, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Stockholm
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Most westernized "eastern" European country: Poland/Czech Republic/Estonia
Most easternized "western" European country: Greece/Cyprus
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Old 07-15-2014, 06:41 AM
 
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I hold to the view that regardless of what we see now in the former Russian satellites they have suffered psychological scarring that has put them back decades in new development. They have may the accoutrements of 'westernization' but underneath it can be a different story. Just my take.
I am Czech and I do not consider myself to be psychologicaly scarred. I said it many times and I say it again: Forty years of tragic episode cannot destroy previous thousand years of history.
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Old 07-15-2014, 06:43 AM
 
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Most westernized "eastern" European country: Poland/Czech Republic/Estonia
Most easternized "western" European country: Greece/Cyprus
Poland, Czech republic and Estonia are Western countries which just happened to be under Soviet domination.
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Old 07-15-2014, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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Poland, Czech republic and Estonia are Western countries which just happened to be under Soviet domination.
They are Central together with Finland, Latvia, Lithuania, Slovakia, Eastern half of Austria, Slovenia and Hungary.
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Old 07-15-2014, 02:41 PM
 
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They are Central together with Finland, Latvia, Lithuania, Slovakia, Eastern half of Austria, Slovenia and Hungary.
Ignore him, this poster is on some weird off-topic geography kick in about 3 or 4 different threads. He's totally missing the topic at hand. To be generous - it might be a language issue.
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Old 07-15-2014, 04:40 PM
 
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I'm sorry but you are wrong. People in GB view Poland as Eastern Europe aswell. Listen to the BBC news.
Yes, in France and UK, people view Poland as Eastern Europe. And also Czech Rep even if it starts to change now for Czech Rep.

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Old 07-15-2014, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Stockholm
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Poland, Czech republic and Estonia are Western countries which just happened to be under Soviet domination.
And thereby "eastern" with quotations.
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Old 07-15-2014, 08:30 PM
 
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Mikkarter....

Excellent. I am glad in your case. It is evident that in the Czech Republic there has been good movement in the ensuing years in 'getting out from under'. I know it took great effort.

But in any case I'd suggest that the psychological ramifications of a country's past are good to have in the sense of understanding where it was and where it's heading. In essence it is always in the country's 'DNA' and native memory.
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