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Then they can run back west of Dneipre and clean toilets to their hearts content.
I'll get back to you on this one.
The lands east of the Dneiper are Ukraine and they will be Europe and NATO. Putin cannot stop this mess he created. I for one, appreciate his hand in turning their hearts to the West because it certainly was NOT that way 5 years ago. The next step is splitting the church off from Moscow control. Never thought I'd see that either.
Yes cookies being handed out as a symbolic gesture 5 years ago is the reason Ukrainians are shooting at Russian soldiers in the east. Millions of formerly pro Russian Ukrainians wanting to join NATO are because McCain told them he supports it.
The wasteland that used to be the Donbas is all America's fault and has nothing to do with Russian created insurgency.
Omg Nuland gave support to protesters resisting state violence to silence them. If only Yanukovich had these babies that Putin just spent money on to control any dissent in Russia.
My friend from Rostov's grandpa was in the ROA. He, like those in the UIA, were tricked into believing they were fighting to liberate their homeland from Communists. Like it or not, the facts are that communists made a lot of enemies in eastern europe.
My point is Ukraine and Russia had some people who fought against the USSR in the war. This has nothing to do with Ukraine today. Some kids obviously setup that video in Dnipro, give me a break they had cameras and were acting. 10 kids in a video do not define the national mood.
I understand that you are stubbornly trying to push here Ukrainian propaganda, and deliberately spread false information, but all your hodgepodge is easy to disprove.
1. Ukrainian SS Division Galicia was created of volunteers.
Russian Liberation Army was comprised mostly of POWs ( ie. that's not volunteers, as in Ukrainian case, but people who are trying to bargain for their lives.)
These are FACTS.
"The 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (1st Galician) (German: 14. Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS (galizische Nr. 1)),[2] Ukrainian: 14а Гренадерська Дивізія СС (1а галицька)), prior to 1944 titled the 14th SS-Volunteer Division "Galicia" (German: 14. SS-Freiwilligen Division "Galizien", Ukrainian: 14а Добровільна Дивізія СС "Галичина")[1] was a World War II German military formation made up predominantly of volunteers with a Ukrainian ethnic background from the area of Galicia,[3] later also with some Slovaks and Czechs.[3][4]
So the lies of Ukrainian propaganda that you are trying to peddle here can be easily exposed.
As you can see, the ROA was primarily created by a TRAITOR, who wanted to buy his life back, by POWs, and FOREIGNERS ( because that's what the Russian emigrants were at that time.)
Today Vlasov is regarded as such ( traitor) and his soldiers are held in contempt.
WESTERN UKRAINE however still celebrates its "great traditions" - SS Division Galicia including. And no matter how much you try to deny the evidence, it's out there for everyone to see.
But that's WESTERN Ukraine. EASTERN Ukraine of course is a different story.
This is a place of the "Young Guard" ( basically the Communist resistance to Germans,) the most courageous pages of the history of the WWII.
And since the background of two different parts of Ukraine was so DIFFERENT during the WWII, it's obvious that the attitude of Eastern Ukrainians towards the glorification of SS Division Galicia by Western Ukrainians is hostile for obvious reasons.
So don't tell us the fairy-tales, and stories about someone's "grandpa from Rostov."
They don't matter.
Alas, I must disappoint you, NATO countries invented and built such equipment much earlier than in Russia.
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Omg Nuland gave support to protesters resisting state violence to silence them. If only Yanukovich had these babies that Putin just spent money on to control any dissent in Russia.
Only Putin's Russia would come up with something like that...
Of course, how could it be otherwise, police technology ( in particular mobile shield) can only be in Russia. All other photos, they are not real ))))) only Putin's Russia, Yes ! )))))))))
Specially trained in Polish camps "peaceful demonstrators", who came to Russia to organize a "popular protest", are now in a bad mood , ))))))))
Alas, I must disappoint you, NATO countries invented and built such equipment much earlier than in Russia.
Of course, how could it be otherwise, police technology ( in particular mobile shield) can only be in Russia. All other photos, they are not real ))))) only Putin's Russia, Yes ! )))))))))
Specially trained in Polish camps "peaceful demonstrators", who came to Russia to organize a "popular protest", are now in a bad mood , ))))))))
The program that made huge army vehicles available to police forces to buy was ended by Obama, I'm pretty sure. We'll see how long it stays "ended". I don't know what country the blue and white "Polis" vehicle represents.
The program that made huge army vehicles available to police forces to buy was ended by Obama, I'm pretty sure. We'll see how long it stays "ended". I don't know what country the blue and white "Polis" vehicle represents.
Blue, Poland.
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