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Old 01-19-2016, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Segovia, central Spain, 1230 m asl, Csb Mediterranean with strong continental influence, 40º43 N
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I love the way the "r" sound is pronounced in Dutch, as it is not much different to Spanish "r" one, even though it is a little bit different.



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Old 01-19-2016, 02:01 PM
 
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sometimes the "R" in Italian sounds like "L" to me. I have no clue on how to make the rolled R honestly, although it exists in some French dialects.

I find the Spanish "R" much more harsh, but this mostly applies to Spanish from Spain, although there are probably regional variations.

Conversely, german "R" is very easy for me, it's just like in French, mostly, at least, to my ears.
Or so it seems, but I have heck of a time dealing with German phonetics.
Which shouldn't really be a case, since as it has been discussed here before, German can be easily transliterated into Russian. You can't easily transliterate French into Russian ( can you transliterate French into ANYTHING I wonder ) so by default I have to have more problems with French phonetics. But I struggle with German phonetics instead.

So when the push comes to shove, I just transfer French phonetics into German - problem solved.
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Old 01-19-2016, 02:05 PM
 
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It's not unique to Massachusetts (really only some speakers in eastern Massachusetts), it's the usual in British English.
No?
I think many Brits on here would take issue with that. It's not been my experience, and I lived either there or next door for thirty years.

I mean you do have actually to be in Massachusetts in order to pahk yah cah in Haavad Sq.
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Old 01-19-2016, 02:07 PM
 
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No?
I think many Brits on here would take issue with that. It's not been my experience, and I lived either there or next door for thirty years.

I mean you do have actually to be in Massachusetts in order to pahk yah cah in Haavad Sq.
But that's what British English sounds to me, no?
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Old 01-19-2016, 02:39 PM
 
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But that's what British English sounds to me, no?
Ah, no, they're both non-rhotic, but they don't sound the same at all.
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Old 01-19-2016, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Finland
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Old 01-19-2016, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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Or so it seems, but I have heck of a time dealing with German phonetics.
Which shouldn't really be a case, since as it has been discussed here before, German can be easily transliterated into Russian. You can't easily transliterate French into Russian ( can you transliterate French into ANYTHING I wonder ) so by default I have to have more problems with French phonetics. But I struggle with German phonetics instead.

So when the push comes to shove, I just transfer French phonetics into German - problem solved.
I don't know, I took German at school and it did not seem that hard to pronounce, really.

The only major difficulty is the "ch" in words like "ich", which differs from the usual "sch", which is exacty the same as the french "ch" and which Italians write with a sc(i).

Actually I find English a lot more difficult to pronounce right, even Italian can be tricky sometimes even if I'm French.
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Old 01-19-2016, 04:36 PM
 
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But that's what British English sounds to me, no?
For starters, I'm not sure what you mean by "British English". I think you mean "Received Pronunciation".

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Received Pronunciation (/rɪˈsiːvd prəˌnʌnsiˈeɪʃən/; RP) is the accent of Standard English in the United Kingdom, with a relationship to regional accents similar to the relationship in other European languages between their standard varieties and their regional forms.
Also, in addition to dropping "Aitches" as in "I just bought a new OME", many Brits add in an R where none exists, pronouncing lager beer as "larger".
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Old 01-19-2016, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Sasquatch County
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What ever should we do
Without your expertise?

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Old 01-19-2016, 05:29 PM
 
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For starters, I'm not sure what you mean by "British English". I think you mean "Received Pronunciation".


What else should I "mean" by "British English?" Cockney?
Of course I meant R.P.
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