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Old 01-18-2016, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Fraser Valley, BC
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The letter R can have so many different pronunciations in various European languages.

In English the R sound is quite a bit different then practically every other European language. Although there a different ways to roll the R.

I'm from Canada and I'm a native English speaker but I can speak quite a bit of German and in German French and Dutch the R is known as the guttural R.

Although in Spanish Italian and Russian the R or as in Russian the P has a more rolled sound from the front of throat rather than the back of the throat like the Guttural R is in German Dutch and French.

I can pronounced guttural R perfectly fine but the letter R sound in Spanish and Italian I just can't do.
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Old 01-18-2016, 09:24 PM
 
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The letter R can have so many different pronunciations in various European languages.

In English the R sound is quite a bit different then practically every other European language. Although there a different ways to roll the R.

I'm from Canada and I'm a native English speaker but I can speak quite a bit of German and in German French and Dutch the R is known as the guttural R.

Although in Spanish Italian and Russian the R or as in Russian the P has a more rolled sound from the front of throat rather than the back of the throat like the Guttural R is in German Dutch and French.

I can pronounced guttural R perfectly fine but the letter R sound in Spanish and Italian I just can't do.
Can you do the Massachusetts R, as in: I pahk my cah in Haavad square?
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Old 01-18-2016, 11:30 PM
 
Location: near Turin (Italy)
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The letter R can have so many different pronunciations in various European languages.

In English the R sound is quite a bit different then practically every other European language. Although there a different ways to roll the R.

I'm from Canada and I'm a native English speaker but I can speak quite a bit of German and in German French and Dutch the R is known as the guttural R.

Although in Spanish Italian and Russian the R or as in Russian the P has a more rolled sound from the front of throat rather than the back of the throat like the Guttural R is in German Dutch and French.

I can pronounced guttural R perfectly fine but the letter R sound in Spanish and Italian I just can't do.
Now I'm at the cellphone, so i can't give you a long answer.
Anyway I just wanted to say that also for some native speakers the R is difficult to say. It is called "R moscia" and In here it is one of the most common pronunciation defects. When I will be at the computer I will look for a video with someone who speaks in that way as an example.
I would also like to add that for some of us the mispronunciation of our language by foreigners could be annoying (considering how good we are at foreign languages I find it quite stupid), but usually we can understand you. In particular in the case of "R" it is difficult to misunderstand what the other is saying, also if he is using a different "R" sound. For me it is more challenging to understand someone who can't say double letters or that stresses the words on the wrong syllables for example.

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Old 01-19-2016, 02:22 AM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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sometimes the "R" in Italian sounds like "L" to me. I have no clue on how to make the rolled R honestly, although it exists in some French dialects.

I find the Spanish "R" much more harsh, but this mostly applies to Spanish from Spain, although there are probably regional variations.

Conversely, german "R" is very easy for me, it's just like in French, mostly, at least, to my ears.

In Italy there also exist variations. I have a friend from Milan, he sounds like a belgian to me, his "R" is harsher than mine IMO.
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Old 01-19-2016, 02:44 AM
 
Location: Kingdom of pain, Southern Europe
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We're as screwed with your English R as you are with our Spanish R.
Regardless, the way English speakers pronounce some of our sounds is pretty cute, me thinks.
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Old 01-19-2016, 03:13 AM
 
Location: Hong Kong / Vienna
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Conversely, german "R" is very easy for me, it's just like in French, mostly, at least, to my ears.
IMO the pronunciation of the R varies greatly by region. Some Austrian and German dialects roll it, some don't. I can't roll it, but some Bavarians and people from the Innviertel do.
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Old 01-19-2016, 03:28 AM
 
Location: Europe
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When you practise alone it goes better. Don't be too afraid on spitting someones face
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Old 01-19-2016, 03:52 AM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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Most English-speakers pronounce the "R" as a W.
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Old 01-19-2016, 05:09 AM
 
Location: Leafy London
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I always had trouble rolling my r's.

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Old 01-19-2016, 05:34 AM
 
Location: Trieste
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Albananians and Venetians are those who most roll the R
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