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Nobody know what brought that plane down. There are reasons to consider it was accidentally shot down, but zero evidence of this so far. Saying it was mechanical is equally baseless. It clearly came down on fire quickly and without radio signals.
If this was a mechanical failure the stakes are high because the plane involved, the 737-800, is one of the world's most widely used jetliners. While this jet is different from the 737 Max that was grounded last year after two crashes, Boeing's production and safety procedures are under scrutiny because of problems with the Max.
The engine failure as the cause of the accident seemed suspicious from the beginning considering the place (and the situation) where that terrible accident occurred.
Yes, at the moment, the version of mechanical failure seems more likely. Nevertheless, a normal fire in engine usually does not lead to a plane crash. Aircraft of this class can fly on a single engine. Perhaps there was a pilot error (for example, the pilots panicked and turned off the working engine) or the burning fuel destroyed the wing. But such things are quite rare. Flight recorders can contain all the answers, but I have doubts that this will be shown in public domain.
The engine failure as the cause of the accident seemed suspicious from the beginning considering the place (and the situation) where that terrible accident occurred.
That was my initial reaction as well.
If these events are purely coincidental, then we’re looking at another November 22, 1963 like situation.
JFK assassination
C.S. Lewis dies
Aldous Huxley dies
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The championship trophy for badly timed death, though, goes to a pair of British writers. Aldous Huxley, the author of Brave New World, died the same day as C. S. Lewis, who wrote the Chronicles of Narnia series. Unfortunately for both of their legacies, that day was November 22, 1963, just as John Kennedy’s motorcade passed the Texas School Book Depository. Huxley, at least, made it interesting: At his request, his wife shot him up with LSD a couple of hours before the end, and he tripped his way out of this world.[61]
Of course it's a guesswork at this time, but this article from the NYT published 2 days before the crash, crossed my mind.
"The company is looking at whether two bundles of critical wiring are too close together and could cause a short circuit. A short in that area could lead to a crash if pilots did not respond correctly, the people said. Boeing is still trying to determine whether that scenario could actually occur on a flight and, if so, whether it would need to separate the wire bundles in the roughly 800 Max jets that have already been built. The company says that the fix, if needed, is relatively simple.
The company informed the F.A.A. about the potential vulnerability last month, and Boeing’s new chief executive discussed possible changes to the wiring on an internal conference call last week, according to one of the people and the Boeing engineer, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations.
The company may eventually need to look into whether the same problem exists on the 737 NG, the predecessor to the Max. There are currently about 6,800 of those planes in service."
The company may eventually need to look into whether the same problem exists on the 737 NG, the predecessor to the Max. There are currently about 6,800 of those planes in service."
Can you imagine the chaos and disaster in air transportation if all those planes were grounded for investigation?
The 737-800s have been the subject of inspections since last year after airlines began reporting cracks in a part that keeps wings attached to the fuselage. Boeing said in October that airlines around the world inspected 810 planes, following an order from U.S. safety regulators. Of those, 38 planes – or 5% – needed repairs, Boeing said.
It could be one of the 5%.
It's possible that the actual % is much higher. Remember that only a small percentage of the planes was inspected.
"More than 7,000 737 NGs, of which about 5,000 are the 800 model, are in service and the aircraft has a very good safety record"
The older planes didn't have many incidents, but this was a new (3y.o.) plane made when the Boeing quality started to deteriorate and when profit was allowed to override public safety and quality.
Can you imagine the chaos and disaster in air transportation if all those planes were grounded for investigation?
Apparently it would just take 2 hours to clamp the wires, for each plane.
The disaster IMO, is the lack of confidence people may be having about flying any 737. IMO that would be an over reaction, but in regards to the 737 MAX I'm a little more " concerned ".
Of course it's a guesswork at this time, but this article from the NYT published 2 days before the crash, crossed my mind.
"The company is looking at whether two bundles of critical wiring are too close together and could cause a short circuit. A short in that area could lead to a crash if pilots did not respond correctly, the people said. Boeing is still trying to determine whether that scenario could actually occur on a flight and, if so, whether it would need to separate the wire bundles in the roughly 800 Max jets that have already been built. The company says that the fix, if needed, is relatively simple.
The company informed the F.A.A. about the potential vulnerability last month, and Boeing’s new chief executive discussed possible changes to the wiring on an internal conference call last week, according to one of the people and the Boeing engineer, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations.
The company may eventually need to look into whether the same problem exists on the 737 NG, the predecessor to the Max. There are currently about 6,800 of those planes in service."
I heard on the news that the plane passed a maintenance check on Monday.
If this explosion was something other than a coincidental accident, then we have a situation where the USA provoked Iran, Iran responded with a non-deadly demonstration of capabilities, and 63 Canadians plus many Iranian scholars/researchers attending Canadian universities are dead. Half of the Canadian victims are connected with the University of Alberta community, others with Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver academics.
I didn't read the article you linked, but maybe you can tell me whether this wire bundling issue has been discovered on the earlier versions of the 737 planes? Is checking this bundle routine today during maintenance checks?
Canadian News is connecting this story with the assassination and missiles.
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The engine failure as the cause of the accident seemed suspicious from the beginning considering the place (and the situation) where that terrible accident occurred.
