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Thank you. Didn't even look but at least you will. All the 'definitions' are pointless. Be comfortable in our own skin. Change it if we don't like. Judging is ridiculous. (I'm 'cut'. Does that make me a better man? Heck no)
I agree. It works for me because I'm not a big guy. But if someone has a bigger frame, maybe "cut" isn't the best thing for them. Maybe brute strength, a 600 pound deadlift or something like that, is their goal. We all have different priorities. Look at the makeup of an NFL offense. All elite athletes, but so many different body types. There's not one "right" way to do fitness.
I agree. It works for me because I'm not a big guy. But if someone has a bigger frame, maybe "cut" isn't the best thing for them. Maybe brute strength, a 600 pound deadlift or something like that, is their goal. We all have different priorities. Look at the makeup of an NFL offense. All elite athletes, but so many different body types. There's not one "right" way to do fitness.
Exactly. I'm 155 and sleep dl 455. Squat 405. I can't bench more that 245. Yet I can run hill sprints, with a parachute, in heat that wilts most.
Ok, perhaps using the word "fat" isn't really accurate. I don't mean fat as in obese, but fat as in that though they are obviously very strong they have considerable levels of bodyfat to a point of looking unattractive. I know not everybody has to be super lean, but don't most guys go to the gym not only to get healthier/stronger but also to look better? Why invest all this effort only to look like a piece of crap?
Who knows? Maybe they're powerlifters and olympic lifters (though those guys usually tend to stay in gyms geared toward that) or maybe they're bulking and doing it poorly?
The better question is, who cares?
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Pro-bodybuilders are bad examples because they juice which allows them to get leaner faster than normal people.
I don't have too many pics of me without a shirt on, I'm not much of an exhibitionist or showoff. But here's one of me paddle boarding down at Outer Banks, NC last summer. Moments before my son pushed me off my board!
LOL, these days, nearly every friggin picture I have includes a few photobombing kids.
Bodyfat and muscle mass are 2 completely separate things. It's perfectly possible to have lots of muscle that others can't actually see because it's hidden under the sea of fat.
There have been a number of responses now from people who seem to associate a combination of muscular and lean with the word "buff." That's my view as well, but if we get into a debate about the meaning of "buff," that will drift away from the real thread topic, so let's just accept that by "buff" you meant "muscular" and go from there.
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I know not everybody has to be super lean, but don't most guys go to the gym not only to get healthier/stronger but also to look better? Why invest all this effort only to look like a piece of crap?
There's more than one benefit to exercise. Maybe a lot of these guys are interested mainly in getting strong, and/or being fit, and/or enjoying the challenge of pushing themselves to keep achieving new goals in the gym, and/or . . . You may be making a mistake in assuming that one of the goals you would have is something that everyone sees as a priority.
Also, even when people are thinking about appearance, different people may seek different looks. I'm guessing that a lot of guys really dedicated to lifting weights aren't interested in "looking good" in a way that means looking like a metrosexual or a male model in GQ. The "look" many of those guys are going for (when they think about their looks) probably is more about looking big and strong and physically imposing.
Then there's this:
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There is nothing wrong with being strong and a little overweight . . . We all have the genetics we're born with and there is only so much you can do to change it.
This is just casual observation, but it does seem that a lot of the most muscular guys have a basic build that is kind of round and bearish. Think of football linemen, or some big slugger baseball players like David Ortiz for example. Even when those guys are at their most trim, they're still kind of full and padded.
Maybe the guys you're referring to are like that. They're naturally just big and heavy all around: large-boned, muscular, and kinda beefy. Maybe it's not that they don't try to look lean, but more that their basic builds will always make them a bit full and round, even when they're in their best shape.
everyone's body is different and diet....it takes a lot of work to lean out and still manage to stay somewhat muscular...I think some guys would rather stay on the husky side but have some muscle....if your at the gym you should probably only be worrying about how your body is looking anyways.....stay focused
I consider being buffed and fat and oxymoron. If you are buffed the you can't have considerable levels of body fat and if you do have considerable levels of body fat then you are not really buffed after all
Exactly. I'm 155 and sleep dl 455. Squat 405. I can't bench more that 245. Yet I can run hill sprints, with a parachute, in heat that wilts most.
Thanks for the response
I'm 170, DL 405, squat 350, and bench 280. Plus I can still run some medium endurance at a faster pace that a lot of people 10 years younger than me. I just turned 36.
I should look for the pick where he actually knocks me off. Give me a minute here...
Here it is. The little guy got on the scoreboard with this one!
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