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Old 02-13-2014, 12:26 PM
 
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No, not in this country. I wouldn't entering their home either, unless I saw others doing so or was asked to. That isn't an etiquette issue in our country. Or at least not in the regions I've lived in.

Hats is.
It is an etiquette issue, as I mentioned, just go up to the world forum thread on the subject and you will see many Americans say yes to shoes off, or no to shoes off.

Where I grew up in the midwest, it was etiquette to take shoes off, yet my parents never thought so because they grew up in the south. I learned fast from from people when we moved to the midwest to take off my shoes when entering the home. I do now because it is dirty to track dirt from the outside in all over the floor.
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Old 02-13-2014, 12:27 PM
 
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Many of you guys aren't ready for hat ownership. If you have one you should turn it in to the Hat Authority.
Many of you are not ready for debating, other than "it is etiquette", and "it always has been like this", all the while ignoring the questions why do you not follow all etiquette rules.
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Old 02-13-2014, 12:32 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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It is an etiquette issue, as I mentioned, just go up to the world forum thread on the subject and you will see many Americans say yes to shoes off, or no to shoes off.

Where I grew up in the midwest, it was etiquette to take shoes off, yet my parents never thought so because they grew up in the south. I learned fast from from people when we moved to the midwest to take off my shoes when entering the home. I do now because it is dirty to track dirt from the outside in all over the floor.

Ok, where you lived it is. Where I lived it isn't. It wasn't in Wisconsin except on farms/rural areas.

Not sure what your point is. The hats thing is in the U.S. and UK (all I know about). Again, not sure your point.
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Old 02-13-2014, 12:33 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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Many of you are not ready for debating, other than "it is etiquette", and "it always has been like this", all the while ignoring the questions why do you not follow all etiquette rules.

I follow the ones I was taught, as most people do. For instance, I walk on the street side of my date. Always have. I stand when my date/a woman comes to my dinner table at home or at a restaurant.

Not sure about the point you're trying to make.
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Old 02-13-2014, 12:37 PM
 
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I follow the ones I was taught, as most people do. For instance, I walk on the street side of my date. Always have. I stand when my date/a woman comes to my dinner table at home or at a restaurant.
Do you stand everytime a women enters/exists a room?
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Old 02-13-2014, 12:39 PM
 
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I follow the ones I was taught, as most people do. For instance, I walk on the street side of my date. Always have. I stand when my date/a woman comes to my dinner table at home or at a restaurant.

Not sure about the point you're trying to make.
You follow the ones you were taught, not all of them then. The point is regarding the hat issue; some see it as some etiquette, polite thing, others see no big deal about it. Yet the hats off crowd is more than willing to pass judgement to those who do not take their hats off, and cannot come up with an argument as to why hats off other than "just because".

At least with shoes off, an argument can be made that shoes off keeps from dirt being tracked around the home. I fail to see what not taking off a hat does.

Also, given there are numerous etiquettes not followed, I do not see why the focus is on this one, all the while ignoring their failure to do others.
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Old 02-13-2014, 12:40 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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Do you stand everytime a women enters/exists a room?

No, because that isn't the etiquette I was taught. I told you what I was taught.
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Old 02-13-2014, 12:40 PM
 
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Then hat eitquette really isn't a big impact to your life, unless hats aren't being tipped in your direction as much as they should

Do you have a problem with people not following convention and tipping their hat towards you or in some instances even wearing them in your presence?

Are you alarmed that people aren't standing up everytime you enter or exit a room?

Do you get angry when walking on a public street that a guy you are with doesn't stand on the curb side at all times?

How about when sharing the back seating arrangement of a car with a man - if he takes the seat to your right do you get offended at the implication that has on you?
It depends on where we are.

In fact at work the guys are required to wear hard hats.....and leave them on.

At a outdoor social event....no big deal.

Would a hire a man that at an interview did not remove his hat??.....NO.

Out to a nice restaurant or, other event.....I would not get mad however.....my opinion of them would go down.
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Old 02-13-2014, 12:40 PM
 
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Do you stand everytime a women enters/exists a room?
Of course he does not, just as he does not expect a woman to be in a different room when men are over for a gathering.
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Old 02-13-2014, 12:42 PM
 
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You follow the ones you were taught, not all of them then. The point is regarding the hat issue; some see it as some etiquette, polite thing, others see no big deal about it. Yet the hats off crowd is more than willing to pass judgement to those who do not take their hats off, and cannot come up with an argument as to why hats off other than "just because".

At least with shoes off, an argument can be made that shoes off keeps from dirt being tracked around the home. I fail to see what not taking off a hat does.

Also, given there are numerous etiquettes not followed, I do not see why the focus is on this one, all the while ignoring their failure to do others.

That is because it is what they were taught. That is understandable. If I wasn't taught something, how can I do it?

Etiquette does change, slowly, but the hat one in places I've lived has not. Perhaps that is why the focus is there. I can't answer that.
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