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View Poll Results: Would you visit a Northern Arizona Theme Park?
yes 90 62.50%
no 54 37.50%
Voters: 144. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-10-2009, 08:32 PM
 
Location: The Circle City. Sometimes NE of Bagdad.
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Being involved in real estate in 2 of the most beautiful areas in the world should not be an automatic negative. If his last name was Trump it would be ok.
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Old 03-10-2009, 09:12 PM
 
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So is that the same Colin Salibury that's selling beach front property in Fiji Link: Fiji Lifestyle on the Coral Coast

I didn't think this sounded negative. But now that you mention it, I guess it could be. I certainly didn't mean to come off negative. The more info I get concerning this park, the more legit it appears to be:~)
 
Old 03-11-2009, 07:54 AM
 
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Oh, looky hear. He also sells secrets on how to make money on the internet: Welcome to Explode-Your-Profits.com . There's even a picture of him there.
 
Old 03-12-2009, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Chandler, Arizona
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I am just trying to stay fair and balanced,like one of my hero's Bill O'Reilly
 
Old 05-15-2009, 03:16 PM
 
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Words are cheap on the internet.
So are real estate agents!

I'm NOT an econut, but I AM a longtime Arizona resident. If I had a nickel for every hair-brained Grand Canyon theme park idea that we've all heard about, I'd be retiring right now.

EVERYBODY, including you, fail to realize, or even conceptually consider what it takes to build a large scale operation such as a "Theme Park" in what is a remote location.

Mark my words and return to this thread the next time some "Investor" wants to build a theme-park that is NOT near a major metropolitan area in Arizona.

IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.... EVER.

This includes the "Rock and Roll" theme park in Eloy... Ain't happening, too far away from the infrastructure that it requires.

The only way a Theme Park makes it in Arizona, is it's location being close enough to the Phoenix metro area to be economically viable, meaning an expected return on investment within 3 years, 5 years maximum.

The kind of infrastructure required to build a theme park in ANY other location would cost too much in up front money to expect any return in a period of less than 10 years. Heck, it's probably not even possible at 10 years to be honest.

It's actually common sense, when you come down to it.

Longtime Arizona residents KNOW what it takes to live out here away from the infrastructure of the Metro Phoenix area.

Don't be so quick to label people who don't want to see this thing come to light as anti-growth or eco-nuts. Maybe we're just realists who don't want to see the possibility of a project like this actually getting started only to be abandoned part-way through because the economics don't work and the developer wasn't smart enough to realize what they were getting into.

And what happens then....

An abandoned eyesore, no thanks!
 
Old 05-15-2009, 05:19 PM
 
Location: The Circle City. Sometimes NE of Bagdad.
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Old 05-19-2009, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Chandler, Arizona
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Tree huggers hate talk of growth,once they move to an area they want to the door to close behind them so noone else can enter.
 
Old 05-20-2009, 08:54 AM
 
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So are real estate agents!

I'm NOT an econut, but I AM a longtime Arizona resident. If I had a nickel for every hair-brained Grand Canyon theme park idea that we've all heard about, I'd be retiring right now.

EVERYBODY, including you, fail to realize, or even conceptually consider what it takes to build a large scale operation such as a "Theme Park" in what is a remote location.

Mark my words and return to this thread the next time some "Investor" wants to build a theme-park that is NOT near a major metropolitan area in Arizona.

IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.... EVER.

This includes the "Rock and Roll" theme park in Eloy... Ain't happening, too far away from the infrastructure that it requires.

The only way a Theme Park makes it in Arizona, is it's location being close enough to the Phoenix metro area to be economically viable, meaning an expected return on investment within 3 years, 5 years maximum.

The kind of infrastructure required to build a theme park in ANY other location would cost too much in up front money to expect any return in a period of less than 10 years. Heck, it's probably not even possible at 10 years to be honest.

It's actually common sense, when you come down to it.

Longtime Arizona residents KNOW what it takes to live out here away from the infrastructure of the Metro Phoenix area.

Don't be so quick to label people who don't want to see this thing come to light as anti-growth or eco-nuts. Maybe we're just realists who don't want to see the possibility of a project like this actually getting started only to be abandoned part-way through because the economics don't work and the developer wasn't smart enough to realize what they were getting into.

And what happens then....

An abandoned eyesore, no thanks!

You missed the one planned for Gilbert and the one for Tucson. lol I know huh, I've seen mention of 5 sep. theme parks in the last 5 years. None have ever really happened. Call me when it's up and running!

Last edited by twiggy; 05-20-2009 at 09:06 AM..
 
Old 05-21-2009, 04:15 PM
 
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It is still going ahead as far as I can tell. I can't believe people are still about this. The one thing people have always done is entertain themselves, especially in hard economic times. Even during the depression people continued to go to movies and plays. World War II didn't stop people from seeking entertainment, why would people stop now?:

Hi Matt,

Just following up on your interest in the investment
opportunity with the new Theme Parks in Arizona.

With the capital raise for the units in the Theme Park project
drawing to a close our focus is shifting to the opportunity
we have on the land under and surrounding the Williams theme park.

The current economic situation is working in our favour for two
reasons.

Firstly, we are able to renegotiate the land options to much
more favourable terms. This means we do not need the large
amounts of funds we originally calculated for.

Secondly, with regard to the whole project, investors are
taking money out of stocks and property and investing in bonds,
and this is good as the project is being funded by bond money.

** Only 42 membership units now available **

There are a total of 350 membership units in Grand Canyon Land
Company LLC of which a maximum of 70 are being offered. Each
membership unit is $50,000 making a total placement of
$3,500,000. The purpose of raising this capital is to manage
land purchases and fulfil our option obligations on the land.

** First sale already made **

Of the 255 acres we have under option, 130 of these acres have
been purchased under contract by the Theme Park Company which
will settle when the Bond under Arizona House Bill 2365 is
filled. There is a contract in place for the purchase of these
130 acres and a copy of this contract is in the Regulation D,
Private Placement Memorandum.

Opportunities then lie with the remaining and adjacent 125
acres surrounding the Theme Park development. We just received
the following letter from the Grubb & Ellis/BRE Land Group
which outlines the values expected to be achieved once
construction starts:
http://www.grand-canyon-land-company.com/WilliamsAZ-ArizonaThemePark.pdf

This shows the incredible upside for investors in the Grand
Canyon Land Company.

The offer for each of these 42 units is as follows:

1 Each membership unit is priced $50,000

2 Once the contract is completed with Grand Canyon Theme
Park Holdings $100,000 will be repaid

3 During this time a 8% interest payment will be accrued
and paid also on completion of this contract .

4 There is no change to your equity status at this point;
that is 1/350

5 Our Proforma projections indicate a further $80,000
could be paid out over the ensuing 2 years.

As we said there are only 42 units available.

We would love to have you in this venture with us.

You can read more at: Grand Canyon Land Company: Investment Opportunity

Please reply to this email if you have any questions or would
like to know more.

Kind Regards


Colin Salisbury
Grand Canyon Land Company LLC

PS If you know of anyone else who could be interested please
note there is a $5,000 finders fee if they purchase.




GVN

P O Box 30 968
Level 2
Lower Hutt, Wellington
5040
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Old 05-21-2009, 06:23 PM
 
Location: The Circle City. Sometimes NE of Bagdad.
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Same old crap. Never gonna happen.
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