[TreeBeard]

After appointing the state’s first chief science officer and another singularly tasked with battling the effects of sea level rise, Gov. Ron DeSantis quickly emerged as a different kind of Florida Republican leader.

The GOP-led Florida Senate embraced the change last month, holding its first-ever hearing on climate change – with experts presenting data on water intrusion and its impact along the state’s 8,400 miles of coast.

https://www.staugustine.com/news/201...e-change-again


I always said if you live in Florida and do not care about climate change you have a special kind of inanity.


Florida is just barely above sea level and local coastal communities see the writing on the wall as to rising sea levels.


Now even some Republicans are coming around that climate change is real and it is getting time to address the issue.


Hopefully, rather than being climate obstructionists this is the beginning of a swing towards passing prudent climate change legislation by Republicans

[Corrie22]

"climate change" has has no effect on the rate of sea level rise in Florida

Sea level rise has been rock solid consistent since records began...over 100 years....

Sea level rise was exactly the same before global warming....and it's exactly the same after global warming

...it's less than 1 inch a decade......and less than 1 foot in 100 years.....0.79 feet in 100 years

rate of sea level rise in Florida > https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sl..._meantrend.png

I always said...if you take their word for it....and don't check the facts....it's easy to get had

[Frank Purlin]

Global warming is fake.

Just look at the actions of all the people lecturing us on climate change . . . . they all live on the water, in massive homes, and travel constantly. HAHAHAHAHA!

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by Corrie22

"climate change" has has no effect on the rate of sea level rise in Florida

Sea level rise has been rock solid consistent since records began...over 100 years....

Sea level rise was exactly the same before global warming....and it's exactly the same after global warming

...it's less than 1 inch a decade......and less than 1 foot in 100 years.....0.79 feet in 100 years

rate of sea level rise in Florida > https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sl..._meantrend.png

I always said...if you take their word for it....and don't check the facts....it's easy to get had

For the 12 months ended in June, NASA measured global mean sea level rise at over 8 mm, almost a third of an inch. See post 30 here:

//www.city-data.com/forum/miami...0-years-3.html

Southeast Florida governments anticipate as much as a foot of sea level rise by 2030, and soon may revise these estimates higher, implying perhaps an inch or more of annual sea level rise by the end of the coming decade.

https://www.theinvadingsea.com/2019/...e-projections/

Key Largo has experienced over 40 days of "sunny day" flooding recently.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/loc...236261848.html

Why is new construction in North Bay Village required to be nine feet above sea level? Why is Miami Beach spending hundreds of millions of dollars to elevate roads and build pumping infrastructure?

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/loc...236008463.html

https://miamibeachtimes.com/real-est...water-program/

Other related posts are post 30 here:

//www.city-data.com/forum/flori...growing-3.html

And post 20 in this thread:

//www.city-data.com/forum/flori...florida-2.html

The Florida insurance tsunami warned about in the above posts already is taking place in California in relation to wildfires and fire insurance.

https://www.latimes.com/business/sto...surance-crisis

Florida leaders above all else need to become leaders in the efforts to transition away from fossil fuel consumption. Reducing coastal development and otherwise adapting to sea level rise already locked in by current atmospheric carbon dioxide and methane levels should be a top priority of Florida leaders in order to avoid, or more likely mitigate, a future environmental and derivative financial crisis.

[Florida2014]

Originally Posted by Frank Purlin

Global warming is fake.

Just look at the actions of all the people lecturing us on climate change . . . . they all live on the water, in massive homes, and travel constantly. HAHAHAHAHA!

Yes, all those "crazy* rich scientists, always trying to protect their oceanside mansions!

[Corrie22]

a third of an inch a year.....lying by omission

Sea level rise for south Florida was faster from 1930 to 1938...faster from 1945 to 1947....faster from 1990 to 1992

..and if you cherry pick 1987 to 1990...or 2009 to 2010..one year....you can show sea levels falling at a "unprecedented" rate

are people really that stupid.......obviously

https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sl..._meantrend.png

[Dave_n_Tenn]

Does anyone believe ocean levels are static?

Construction standards are based on previous measurable data not projections. Most new construction is for storm surge. It's 13' in the Keys and will probably be higher after Irma.

https://www.monroecounty-fl.gov/902/Flooding

[beach43ofus]

How many times have I told you Ron Desantis is the Greenest Florida Governor of all time? Every Democrat out there needs to jump onto his bandwagon. He's been bending Washington's ear about the environment too. The trade war with China is the best thing for the Global environment in many years. China's GDP is at the lowest its been for 27.5 years, so that means less global warming, and Florida stays above water for a little longer.

Now get out there on election day and do the right thing.

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by Corrie22

a third of an inch a year.....lying by omission

Sea level rise for south Florida was faster from 1930 to 1938...faster from 1945 to 1947....faster from 1990 to 1992

..and if you cherry pick 1987 to 1990...or 2009 to 2010..one year....you can show sea levels falling at a "unprecedented" rate

are people really that stupid.......obviously

https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sl..._meantrend.png

My posts documented the easily verified reality that within the last decade that temperatures in the world's icy regions have moved above the freezing point of ice, for longer periods of increasingly high temperatures.

E.g., read the NOAA's executive summary for its 2018 Arctic Report Card.

https://arctic.noaa.gov/Report-Card/...cutive-Summary

Ice melt, warming oceans, and gravitational changes as the loss of ice decreases the gravitational pull of the earth's polar regions, all are increasing sea levels around Florida at a greater rate than the global mean level.

Anyone can check out the NASA sea level measurements by scrolling over the following chart.

https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/

Look at the chart carefully. As noted in post 30 linked below, sea level increase of 7.9 mm for the 12 months ended 5/27/19 is over 8 percent of the 95 mm of sea level increase recorded by NASA in the 26 1/2 years it has used satellites to measure global mean sea level. Once 2019 Arctic ice melt is reflected, it's very likely that 2019 sea level rise alone will equal over 10 percent of the measured total for the 26 1/2 years.

//www.city-data.com/forum/miami...0-years-3.html

As noted in the linked posts, the almost 5.4 mm for the six months ended in May 2019 surely reflects Antarctic ice melt. Given the disproportionate amount of ice in the Antarctic, when the first six months of any year likely exceeds the total increase for any prior year recorded by NASA, it's time for immense concern. Of course, with every passing year the accelerating trend of sea level rise will become ever more clear.

See post 33 here.

//www.city-data.com/forum/miami...0-years-4.html

Most importantly, disappearing sea ice, glacier retreat and calving, and, yes, even observable sea level rise are much greater than anything witnessed in the periods cited in the above quoted post.

As sea level rise experts such as the Univ. of Miami's Harold Wanless have repeatedly warned, sea level rise is in a period of rapid acceleration. The trend will become increasingly obvious to everyone, except the most deluded man-made climate change deniers. Sadly, sea level rise will continue even after mankind transitions away from fossil fuel consumption, an inevitability given the alternative.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-50236882

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...elizabeth-rush

[Corrie22]

Jan 8, 2019......90mm first measurement for this year
Jun 25, 2019....94.6mm last measurement posted for this year

look at the math carefully....that's an increase of 4.6mm....not 8mm

Jun 11, 2010.....56.3mm
Apr 4, 2011.......47.6mm

...sea level fell a real measured 8.7mm

cherry picking the natural up and downs is fun!