03-10-2007, 10:15 AM
Location: So. Dak.
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Nancy Lynne
Ya know, throughout this all, I think I was fundamentally trying to be very sensitive to the fact that I was applying for a job in FL and that I was from NJ. I mean, I know NJ people have a reputation for being a bit, shall we say, abrasive. (Not me tho!!!
- but then again, I am originally from Delaware). I did not want to be all the things (or characteristics) that are stereotypical of NJ folks. So I was treading lightly and gently. AND, I was taking into account the thought that Floridians, in general, move at a slightly slower pace. BUT THIS IS NOT THE "SLOWSKIES" TURTLE COMMERCIAL!!! This is my life! ok, now that i got that out of my system.....
Nancy, I know about how people from NJ and NY are stereotyped and it's kind of sad.
I don't know many of them, but one of my dearest internet friends is from NJ and we had the chance to spend a week with them last summer when they came out to see us. We had a fantastic time and we didn't think they were abrasive at all. They were very nice. I also have a neice who is a NY transplant and she loves it there. She's always had a "strong" personality so she feels she fits in well there. Maybe the people from there have just learned to be more open and speak their minds more then people in other parts of the country???
I don't really know, but please don't let someone trample over you just for fear that you'll come across as abrasive when you'd only be standing up for yourself because you don't appear to be that way at all.
Are you aware of any other jobs in your field that are hiring in Fla? You may want to consider trying some place else if they don't make a move now.
03-10-2007, 10:29 AM
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Nancy Lynne , could it be that because you were passed around to so many people for interviews, the one who made the most recent "offer" just assumed that salary was discussed earlier in the process?
What would stop you from contacting someone to ask for that vital information?
Just phone or even send an email saying something like,
"By the way, no one has told me the salary range for this position and before I can make the decision to accept this job, I need to know what it pays. Thank you."
03-10-2007, 10:34 AM
Location: Lakeland, FL
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I would do some research and google this company complaints, I am afraid for you to take this job.
03-10-2007, 12:10 PM
Location: Finally made it to Florida and lovin' every minute!
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Hi, Nancy. Sorry I haven't checked in...been busy with the moving sale (which went well, BTW). Here you go again, huh? Man, what do I say? Do what your heart says, girl, but it sounds like you need to nail them down. I think I said this before, but just in case I didn't....if they're treating you like this now, during the "honeymoon", how will you be treated after you're hired?
Hang in there. Show them those "coconuts" and pour me one of those margaritas, ok?
03-10-2007, 12:13 PM
Location: SE Florida
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Figment 07
Nancy Lynne , could it be that because you were passed around to so many people for interviews, the one who made the most recent "offer" just assumed that salary was discussed earlier in the process?
What would stop you from contacting someone to ask for that vital information?
Just phone or even send an email saying something like,
"By the way, no one has told me the salary range for this position and before I can make the decision to accept this job, I need to know what it pays. Thank you."
Ya know, that really makes sense. It could have been an oversight.
When you call you could ask for something in writing so that you will have something to use to verify income in finding a place to rent.
03-10-2007, 02:15 PM
Location: Vero Beach, Fl
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Nancy Lynne - please do me a favor and send me a private message with the name of the company. I have worked with a great many or know people who have worked with a great may and their respctive experiences.
Last edited by jhlcomp; 03-10-2007 at 02:35 PM ..
03-10-2007, 06:05 PM
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My new FLORIDA COCONUTS! LOL!
You guys are so funny! Oh, I laughed so hard my face hurts!!
I never heard that before....about the FLORIDA COCONUTS...but I can assure you, it will now be part of my standard vocabulary!
I'm OK about it now. I'll tell ya this, you all say the same thing. Hmmmm. Now, That DOES tell me something.
I had been hidin' my coconuts! The ball is in my court now, or not at all. No more games.
03-10-2007, 06:21 PM
Location: Tampa Bay
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Exactly!
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Nancy Lynne
You guys are so funny! Oh, I laughed so hard my face hurts!!
I never heard that before....about the FLORIDA COCONUTS...but I can assure you, it will now be part of my standard vocabulary!
I'm OK about it now. I'll tell ya this, you all say the same thing. Hmmmm. Now, That DOES tell me something.
I had been hidin' my coconuts! The ball is in my court now, or not at all. No more games.
Right . . . don't start making trade-offs of who you are. It is way too early in the relocation game and the start of your new life to do that. You deserve the best that you can get. Now, go out there and get it!
03-10-2007, 06:23 PM
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hereinfla
Ya know, that really makes sense. It could have been an oversight.
Well, here is the sceanario. The job is a marketing job reporting into the marketing department. The company is a software company. Therefore, there are many different software solutions to be a "marketing manager" for. For example, one could be a marketing manager for Systems Integration solutions, or one could be a marketing manager for Network Management solutions, etc. Even though all of the marketing jobs report into the marketing department, the job "supports" the product management/development VPs, although the position does not report directly into them. So (ahh..this is getting boring for me so I know it is for you!
) -- the 1st job they originaly wanted me for...ended up being taken by the manager who is "supposedly" hiring me. So, he said I would be good in one of the product categories he was giving up in order to take the one I originally interviewed and applied for. So, fine. Then I interviewed with two new VPs who oversee the product category for job opp#2. Interviews went great, in fact, I really liked those two gentlemen. Then, I get an email saying that the interviews went so well, they would like me to consider yet another, more important, higher priority product group....hence, two more interviews next week with two more VPs.
I get the feeling that the VPs really liked me and talked about me to other VPs and the CEO of the company. I also get the feeling that my "so called reporting-to-manager" is just really weird.
Wanna laugh??????????????
Ya know that feeling when you talk to someone on the phone and there is always a TON OF SILENCE?????
I mean....how uncomfortable is that???!!!! Oh, I'm laughing again....last conversation, at one point I said, "Are you still there"?????
He said, "Ugghhh, yes, I am." Then....there was silence again...
Now that's hard for a fast-talking Njerseyan like me to keep quiet during all that silence!
03-10-2007, 06:27 PM
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kar
Hi Nancy,
kar - you are right on. There are absolutely no other tech companies in the area except this one. If it doesn't work, I am toast! Thanks to all the insight and feedback I have received on here....my eyes are now wide open, instead of what I have been doing thru this....sleepwalkin!
Thanks
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People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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- but then again, I am originally from Delaware). I did not want to be all the things (or characteristics) that are stereotypical of NJ folks. So I was treading lightly and gently. AND, I was taking into account the thought that Floridians, in general, move at a slightly slower pace. BUT THIS IS NOT THE "SLOWSKIES" TURTLE COMMERCIAL!!! This is my life! ok, now that i got that out of my system.....
I don't know many of them, but one of my dearest internet friends is from NJ and we had the chance to spend a week with them last summer when they came out to see us. We had a fantastic time and we didn't think they were abrasive at all. They were very nice. I also have a neice who is a NY transplant and she loves it there. She's always had a "strong" personality so she feels she fits in well there. Maybe the people from there have just learned to be more open and speak their minds more then people in other parts of the country???
I don't really know, but please don't let someone trample over you just for fear that you'll come across as abrasive when you'd only be standing up for yourself because you don't appear to be that way at all.
Are you aware of any other jobs in your field that are hiring in Fla? You may want to consider trying some place else if they don't make a move now.
My new FLORIDA COCONUTS! LOL!
) -- the 1st job they originaly wanted me for...ended up being taken by the manager who is "supposedly" hiring me. So, he said I would be good in one of the product categories he was giving up in order to take the one I originally interviewed and applied for. So, fine. Then I interviewed with two new VPs who oversee the product category for job opp#2. Interviews went great, in fact, I really liked those two gentlemen. Then, I get an email saying that the interviews went so well, they would like me to consider yet another, more important, higher priority product group....hence, two more interviews next week with two more VPs. 
