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A want is a need. It's a different level of need. You should read Abraham Maslow's work on needs. This type of need would fall somewhere between need of acceptance and self actualization. Possible need of achievement.
You can see it however you want, but I'll stick to the research scientists that have done extensive research in this area.
Nice try with Maslow and good job at flagrantly failing to understand his theory. Also good job at being ignorant of the fact that Maslow's pyramid of needs is a theory and not empirical research. He was a theoretician not a researcher and he theorized on human motivation.
Now ...do do you think anyone will reach "self-actualization" and the other lofty needs Maslow talked about by...changing appliances so they can be color matched?
That is not a need Maslow talked about.
That is just dumb, frivolous consumerism and people looking for self-actualization in the wrongest place possible.
You can call science BS if you want. To each their own.
What you just slapped the "science" label on - IS NOT science.
It is you misunderstanding Maslow's theory.
A WANT is not a NEED.
Need to feel useful? Yes
Need to contribute/make a difference? Yes.
Need to feel loved/part of a community, etc? Yes.
These are the kind of things Maslow was talking about when he identified those needs above the physical level.
Need to have matching appliances? Not even a chance!
Just because many people end up perceiving/experiencing some wants as absolute needs does not make those objects of desire A real NEED.
Your beloved studies have shown that humans who don't receive love/touch/community integration etc can actually end up in ill health.
There is no study under the sun that will find decline in health as a result of not being able to have matching appliances. Unless the person is mentally deranged to begin with.
I know it's hard for you to accept it, but get back down to Earth. Then insert "matching appliances" at any of the levels below.
I didn't think so.
Nice try with Maslow and good job at flagrantly failing to understand his theory. Also good job at being ignorant of the fact that Maslow's pyramid of needs is a theory and not empirical research. He was a theoretician not a researcher and he theorized on human motivation.
Now ...do do you think anyone will reach "self-actualization" and the other lofty needs Maslow talked about by...changing appliances so they can be color matched?
That is not a need Maslow talked about.
That is just dumb, frivolous consumerism and people looking for self-actualization in the wrongest place possible.
I didn't say anything about Maslow's pyramid. Maslow's pyramid is a piece of garbage. It's not even his. It's someone else's interpretation of his work.
To answer your question, it's not possible to reach self-actualization as a result of buying goods. That proposal of yours just makes no sense. To reach self-actualization, you would have to be happy with everything you have and not want more for yourself. People like Bill Gates and Warren buffet fit into this category -- if anyone.
This scenario would fall into achievement if anything... if we're looking at that stupid pyramid.
All this aside, however.... if someone wants matching appliances and is accomplished enough to be able to afford them... why not? What's the point of saving millions in the bank by working hard and being frugal and never spending it?
All this aside, however.... if someone wants matching appliances and is accomplished enough to be able to afford them... why not? What's the point of saving millions in the bank by working hard and being frugal and never spending it?
So...how exactly did we get to this???
I never said she shouldn't! If she affords her wants, she can have her wants.
It's just that you're not going to get away with equating "matching appliances" with NEED.
That's all.
I never said she shouldn't! If she affords her wants, she can have her wants.
It's just that you're not going to get away with equating "matching appliances" with NEED.
That's all.
Everyone has a need to be satisfied on all different levels. If we want to break "wants" outside of "needs"... then no one needs shoes, toilet paper, etc. Those are all wants.
I didn't say anything about Maslow's pyramid. Maslow's pyramid is a piece of garbage.
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Originally Posted by NJBest
You should read Abraham Maslow's work on needs. This type of need would fall somewhere between need of acceptance and self actualization. Possible need of achievement.
You can see it however you want, but I'll stick to the research scientists that have done extensive research in this area.
And no - "matching appliances" doesn't fall "somewhere between need of acceptance and self-actualization". You PUT IT there with your mind - as you could easily find acceptance in a community that doesn't pressure you to have matching appliances.
Everyone has a need to be satisfied on all different levels. If we want to break "wants" outside of "needs"... then no one needs shoes, toilet paper, etc. Those are all wants.
Some wants are much more frivolous than others.
Let's use discernment and common sense at the end of the day.
And honestly?...
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Originally Posted by NJBest
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To answer your question, it's not possible to reach self-actualization as a result of buying goods. That proposal of yours just makes no sense. To reach self-actualization, you would have to be happy with everything you have and not want more for yourself. People like Bill Gates and Warren buffet fit into this category -- if anyone.
This scenario would fall into achievement if anything... if we're looking at that stupid pyramid.
You make no sense. Where did I say you can reach self-actualization as a result of buying goods? Do you even follow?...
Let's use discernment and common sense at the end of the day.
And honestly?...
You make no sense. Where did I say you can reach self-actualization as a result of buying goods? Do you even follow?...
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Originally Posted by syracusa
Now ...do do you think anyone will reach "self-actualization" and the other lofty needs Maslow talked about by...changing appliances so they can be color matched?
I never said anything about having matching appliances and reaching self-actualization as a result. You proposed the idea. And, no, I do not think that. I put it around achievement...but not as defined by that pyramid. I don't even know why the marketing industry associates that pyramid to Maslow. It's their attempt to push their interpretation of human behavior on Maslow.
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