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Old 09-21-2021, 02:29 PM
 
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Yes, my backyard has grown naturally since God first created it as I border a nature reserve. As every season comes and goes, it is wonderful to watch the yard take care of itself. Every spring there are many more pretty wild flowers. Old trees and tree branches naturally fall, so I must cut and pick them up, but it is fuel. I can walk on a soft blanket of primeval vegetation, yet I never mow it.
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Old 09-21-2021, 02:55 PM
 
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That is just for the Roundup brand. But just in case, I will be purchasing several gallons.


And lawyers are the only reason - of course.
"This move is being made exclusively to manage litigation risk and not because of any safety concerns," the company said when it announced its decision.

Yes, the company said, lol. What else would they say? Are they going to say they're withdrawing residential sales because people are too stupid to use it right (if there is such a thing) and are poisoning everything?
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Old 09-21-2021, 02:57 PM
 
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Someone used the term “farmer’s lawn” for a mown area of mixed grasses, clover, and weeds. That’s what we have. It would cost a lot to convert our pasture areas to native grasses because most of it is hardy fescue, Bermuda, and plantains. We mow it to keep the invasive wisteria, ailanthus, ligustrum, nandina, and kudzu from creeping any closer than it has.

Yeah, we have kudzu…
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Old 09-21-2021, 02:58 PM
 
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Yes, my backyard has grown naturally since God first created it as I border a nature reserve. As every season comes and goes, it is wonderful to watch the yard take care of itself. Every spring there are many more pretty wild flowers. Old trees and tree branches naturally fall, so I must cut and pick them up, but it is fuel. I can walk on a soft blanket of primeval vegetation, yet I never mow it.
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Old 09-21-2021, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Cumberland
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I was shocked the other day when I was reading a thread where someone was complaining about the "weeds" in their grass. Shocked at the advice and what people do to their yards, all in the name of perfect grass. All that poison and stripping and killing!

I embrace all the various types of clover, thyme, selfheal, and so many other things that grow in my yard. I am hoping the thyme will take over the tiny front yard completely eventually. I want a purple yard in front!

In the larger back yard I left little patches unmowed all summer to see what would grow in them. Some grew ground bumble bees, which I discovered when I mowed one patch and they objected lol. But it's amazing what has come up over the season, and still getting some new things. I even have some asters!

I've planned all along to have an aster garden at some point, but two types have come up in one of my wild patches, all on their own!

I keep it mowed because codes would be after me if I didn't, but no one has complained about my little wild patches in back.
Well, no Dandelions because we pick them out in the spring and eat them. No other treatment except using round-up on the very occasional poison ivy plant on our property.

Funny people mentioning property values. If you keep it cut, it will all look green and like "grass" to everyone's eye but the most studied expert in urban botany. When the perfect 100% grass "lawns" around me are brown in the heat of summer, my "yard" is still nice and green.

Which one of us is making the neighborhood look bad again?

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Old 09-21-2021, 04:01 PM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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Really?

[i][b]PITTSBURGH—As amphibians continue to mysteriously disappear worldwide, a University of Pittsburgh researcher may have found more pieces of the puzzle. Elaborating on his previous research, ....]
As I said, go to the science literature. It's pretty well established that the decline in amphibian numbers, not nearly as severe as those with an agenda would have us believe, has been pretty well established as being due to pathogenic fungi. Not too much glyphosate used in the rain forest....Look it up.

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But would you really expect them to say it is a health hazard?
Interesting study in how corrupt that 9th Court in CA is...The rate of lymphoma in the population is about 1.5 cases per 10,000 people who are not exposed to glyphosate. If you average all the studies on those exposed to the chemical, it still averages the same -- no discernable difference, BUT, of course not every study shows exactly 1.5/10,000....The lawyers for the plaintiff in that famous case was allowed to present only the studies showing a little more than the average, while the defendant was NOT allowed (!!!) to present the full range of studies.

Now that the lawyers have perverted the science, glyphosate will be taken off the market and we'll be forced to use chemicals that are much more dangerous to us and harmful to the environment. Pyrrhic Victory.
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Old 09-21-2021, 04:27 PM
 
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As I said, go to the science literature. It's pretty well established that the decline in amphibian numbers, not nearly as severe as those with an agenda would have us believe, has been pretty well established as being due to pathogenic fungi. Not too much glyphosate used in the rain forest....Look it up.
If you believe the studies I posted are incorrect and in error, you ought to notify the scientists who conducted them.
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Old 09-21-2021, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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Someone used the term “farmer’s lawn” for a mown area of mixed grasses, clover, and weeds. That’s what we have. It would cost a lot to convert our pasture areas to native grasses because most of it is hardy fescue, Bermuda, and plantains. We mow it to keep the invasive wisteria, ailanthus, ligustrum, nandina, and kudzu from creeping any closer than it has.

Yeah, we have kudzu…
It's good that you're trying to keep the ailanthus down somewhat. As the spotted lanternfly migrates southward from PA (they're in VA now), they seem to prefer to reproduce on ailanthus trees although they can reproduce on many trees and shrubs. We (local master gardeners) have been alerting people to their presence this year because they are terribly invasive and destructive. In fact, 13 southeastern PA counties are currently under quarantine due to this pest. Anyway a gardener can eliminate ailanthus is highly recommended!
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Old 09-21-2021, 11:30 PM
 
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Those pollinators see in the ultra-violet. The plantain look prettier to them. Your weeds are other's pretty flowers.
That's not quite how it works. Bees and wasps see most of the visible light spectrum that we see with the exception that their perception is shifted so that they see yellow to ultraviolet. For this reason, most red flowers are pollinated by hummingbirds instead of bees.

You sound like you're probably aware of the fascinating "nectar guides" that many flowers have - "runways" we can't see without a UV light that direct bees to floral nectaries.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CpEV9_JOv8&t=3s

(I'm a retired native be taxonomist.)
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Old 09-22-2021, 05:21 AM
 
Location: Outskirts of Gray Court, and love it!
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Plenty of people around here let their yards go. Of course its usually to hide the junk and 14 cars on blocks, but they do let it go.
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