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See, here it is. Any moderate suggestion that people in the PNW are spoiled rotten by the low cost of living, low competition for jobs, and, in OR, sweet deal on welfare benefits, gets someone butthurt.
No, you made a comment that's not true and I responded. The cost of living in Seattle and Portland isn't that low at all--and there's a ton of competition for jobs in Portland--it's harder to find a job than somewhere like the Bay Area in many ways. As it is Seattle and Portland could even be considered somewhat overpriced in terms of real estate--even with the recent downturn in the economy. Especially compared to much of the rest of the country. And except for Seattle itself the Pacific NW has a pretty weak economy in many areas. If you consider those comments to be an overly positive assessment of regional boosterism--well, never mind.
And how is the Northwest more spoiled than California in terms of welfare benefits when the Golden State doles out just as much.
I'm not "butthurt" at all, unlike your sore ass...
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You guys on the coasts want that access to the ocean and/or its views, partly why you pay so much money to live there. I personally don't get it (I DO like the ocean, but I like a house, a car, and a social life more)! I guess I don't understand what's so special about the ocean, but then again, I've never lived near/on one, so maybe the joke's on me...
west336...I spent most of my earlier life in So CA...It feels good to live on the "edge!" I wasn't sure if I'd be okay if I moved further inland. (Would I get claustrophobic? Would I be able to breathe?) But I've done just fine! ..I enjoy living near water but it doesn't have to be the beach. Rivers and lakes are just fine with me!...When I grew-up in So CA during the 50's and 60's most of the beaches were open and free. (Didn't have to pay "big bucks" to park in lots.) And there weren't condos and homes all over the place and "high-end" restaurants and hotels and entertainment venues etc...I miss the "old days" in So CA! Everything changed through the years!
I find it very strange on the Montana forum. People in Montana hate out of state people so much and then get so mad when I tell people that. I think I'm doing them a favor by keeping out of staters out but then they have a fit about my prejudice against the state. I don't get it. I love my state but I know it's not for everyone. I started up a thread about romanticized locations where people are talking about this. It's gotten lots of responses.
You guys on the coasts want that access to the ocean and/or its views, partly why you pay so much money to live there. I personally don't get it (I DO like the ocean, but I like a house, a car, and a social life more)! I guess I don't understand what's so special about the ocean, but then again, I've never lived near/on one, so maybe the joke's on me...
It's not just the beaches and the views, it's the history and the freedom... and the FOOD.
It's a cultural thing. On the Pacific Rim you get a lot of groups of people who have been living alongside each other for a long time, but they also have cousins who are like them, but far away. So it's like you can travel around the world by just going to another neighborhood... but you can also travel across the sea and still feel at home.
west336...I spent most of my earlier life in So CA...It feels good to live on the "edge!" I wasn't sure if I'd be okay if I moved further inland. (Would I get claustrophobic? Would I be able to breathe?) But I've done just fine! ..I enjoy living near water but it doesn't have to be the beach. Rivers and lakes are just fine with me!...When I grew-up in So CA during the 50's and 60's most of the beaches were open and free. (Didn't have to pay "big bucks" to park in lots.) And there weren't condos and homes all over the place and "high-end" restaurants and hotels and entertainment venues etc...I miss the "old days" in So CA! Everything changed through the years!
There are parts of NY near the ocean and not condos everywhere, S Florida however , is prolly alot like your California....
I miss Las Olas in Ft. Lauderdale, older buildings and Riverwalk.
Even parts of Bay Harbor Islands, North Miami are still great. Growing up nearby the ocean, a lake is not the same.
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