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It sounds good but there is about a 5 Million person gap between the two Metros.
Barring some cataclysmic event (heaven forbid) LA Metro will never come close, let alone surpass NYC Metro.
Just looking at these census numbers from 1990, 2000, 2010, 2020 pretty much supports my position.
No place is going to grow at that rapid of a clip in comparison to the other Metro especially when we are talking about the two largest Metros in the country. It just doesn't work like that.
If you were to say maybe LA Metro gains a million or two million people in NY Metro over the next 10-20 years even that would be a huge stretch. My point being is that it will almost be impossible for LA Metro to ever overtake NY Metro, basically ever. The gap is HUGE.
It sounds good but there is about a 5 Million person gap between the two Metros.
Barring some cataclysmic event (heaven forbid) LA Metro will never come close, let alone surpass NYC Metro.
Just looking at these census numbers from 1990, 2000, 2010, 2020 pretty much supports my position.
No place is going to grow at that rapid of a clip in comparison to the other Metro especially when we are talking about the two largest Metros in the country. It just doesn't work like that.
If you were to say maybe LA Metro gains a million or two million people in NY Metro over the next 10-20 years even that would be a huge stretch. My point being is that it will almost be impossible for LA Metro to ever overtake NY Metro, basically ever. The gap is HUGE.
This! Thank you!
Also - NYC proper actually grew faster than LA proper according to the census, has better infrastructure, and despite some chaos more effective governance and leadership/philanthropic community. All these things point to continued grow for a mature NYC metro region - one of the world's metropolises.
NY's population is currently below 8.1 million in 2024 according to world estimates, it ain't gaining no million people in 6 years lmao. The US Census Bureau's most recent estimate in 2022 was just over 8.3 million, NY not gaining 800,000 people in 6 years...
Obviously LA is unlikely to ever reach NY population, though...
the census dramatically undercounted NYC's population for the 2020 census. this was a big point of contention because undercounting also equals less federal dollars.
in addition, latest figures show a rebound in population and revenues for the city. also, visitors are coming back to NYC at a fast clip.
the census dramatically undercounted NYC's population for the 2020 census. this was a big point of contention because undercounting also equals less federal dollars.
in addition, latest figures show a rebound in population and revenues for the city. also, visitors are coming back to NYC at a fast clip.
The census was off by 500,000 people on the 2020 NYC estimate compared to the actual census results. Why do people even take these estimates seriously? The city just recorded it's all time low in apartment vacancy at 1.4%. It is strange for a city to shrink at a time when the city is at an all time low in available units to rent. This tells me demand is very high and nothing is available. Doesn't look like massive flight to me. Really makes no sense.
The census was off by 500,000 people on the 2020 NYC estimate compared to the actual census results. Why do people even take these estimates seriously? The city just recorded it's all time low in apartment vacancy at 1.4%. It is strange for a city to shrink at a time when the city is at an all time low in available units to rent. This tells me demand is very high and nothing is available. Doesn't look like massive flight to me. Really makes no sense.
I do think the Census is off, but apartment vacancies being low doesn't necessarily mean the city didn't lose population. It could be families of 3-5 people moving to cheaper pastures while they're being backfilled by single people with money. Occupancy remains high, but the number of people per unit declines. It would be interesting to see some statistics on that.
New York metro is 19.5 million and LA metro (including Riverside suburbs) is about 17.5 million.
It doesn't seem impossible that LA region could catch NY, although at the moment I think California's population is actually dropping, presumably due to home prices.
New York metro is 19.5 million and LA metro (including Riverside suburbs) is about 17.5 million.
It doesn't seem impossible that LA region could catch NY, although at the moment I think California's population is actually dropping, presumably due to home prices.
The LA metro is ~13M. You can’t just go adding places to a MSA just because you want to. That’s now how it work lol.
If you want to add Riverside, then it becomes a CSA vs CSA comparison, and the NYC CSA is at over 23M.
The LA metro is ~13M. You can’t just go adding places to a MSA just because you want to. That’s now how it work lol.
If you want to add Riverside, then it becomes a CSA vs CSA comparison, and the NYC CSA is at over 23M.
I'm really surprised the government hasn't found a way to join Philly and New York into a combined area.
30M has a nice ring to it. Give us the biggest metro in the Americas again.
New York lacks the massive poverty found in most big megacities.
People talk about the wealth gap in the US but some of these megacities have some crazy poverty.
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