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Define Irony: a bunch of people talking about how much they hate how much new yorkers stereotype "outsiders" while simultaneously stereotyping New Yorkers left and right.
For the record; I think NYC has overstated greatness as well but it's pretty hard to deny that it is one of the most influential cities/regions in the nation and the world. There are obviously blowhards who think that this entitles them to poo-poo on everywhere else as inferior but that certainly doesn't seem to be all or even the majority of NYC area folks I've met.
Define Irony: a bunch of people talking about how much they hate how much new yorkers stereotype "outsiders" while simultaneously stereotyping New Yorkers left and right.
For the record; I think NYC has overstated greatness as well but it's pretty hard to deny that it is one of the most influential cities/regions in the nation and the world. There are obviously blowhards who think that this entitles them to poo-poo on everywhere else as inferior but that certainly doesn't seem to be all or even the majority of NYC area folks I've met.
The world isnt a perfect place.
I always hate when people point out youre complaining about other people complaining. What are we supposed to do about it? Just sit there and let it happen?
I never heard any disdain for New Yorkers growing up on the West Coast and Canada.
People were more concerned with their own regional rivalries and stereotypes rather than worrying about people from New York. In Santa Cruz, California, people just hated the "Valleys" from San Jose over the hill or in Northern California some would have negative feelings about Southern Californians or in Oregon some people claim to dislike Californians and so on... In the Western US, New York is such a distant entity.
On the other hand, whenever I met someone from New York or that general area as a kid(before I had actually travelled to New York myself)--whether they were from the city itself or the Tri-State area--we always assumed they were extra hardcore and tough because they were from New York. And I had relatives from New York who would always tell us stories about what Brooklyn and the Bronx were like back in the day(1950s)--it always sounded like something out of a movie compared to our fairly suburban existance on the West Coast. Of course now days Manhattan seems to be filled with fairly suburban people from all over in many parts, but the rest of the boroughs still have that feel.
My grandma's 80-year-old boyfriend in Florida, is an ex-New York cop who has more colorful and enjoyable stories than I can reasonably believe often involving the Mafia, the cops the French Connection was based on, the Copacabana and so on. The one thing is though--you never want to really question the greatness of New York when talking to an old New Yorker. And I love New York--it's an amazing city, among my top 10 cities worldwide--however if it comes to pizza or bagels or the Cyclone roller coaster or whatever--you just smile and say--"Yeah, nothing compares to New York pizza. It must be the water!" I just don't bother arguing the fact that---well I've had good pizza all over the US--but I figure might as well just play to their own sensibilities....
Define Irony: a bunch of people talking about how much they hate how much new yorkers stereotype "outsiders" while simultaneously stereotyping New Yorkers left and right.
For the record; I think NYC has overstated greatness as well but it's pretty hard to deny that it is one of the most influential cities/regions in the nation and the world. There are obviously blowhards who think that this entitles them to poo-poo on everywhere else as inferior but that certainly doesn't seem to be all or even the majority of NYC area folks I've met.
I couldn't have said it better myself, which is partly why I made this thread. Sure, NYC and the urban part of the Northeast is generally fast paced, but out of the many people from NYC and other urban Northeastern cities I've met, I can probably count on one hand the number of people that actually met the stereotype. Some of the most awesome, good-hearted, and down to earth people that I have met have been New Yorkers, Bostonians, New Jersyans, and the like.
I absolutely love New York. As a fellow Northeasterner, I do like to tweak New Yorkers a bit though. New York is arguably the best city in the world, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's the best at everything...which some New Yorkers tend to believe.
To counter this, I enjoy to prod them a bit (not in a mean/venomous way) to see the reaction.
My grandma's 80-year-old boyfriend in Florida, is an ex-New York cop who has more colorful and enjoyable stories than I can reasonably believe often involving the Mafia, the cops the French Connection was based on, the Copacabana and so on.
Yea my uncle is originally from NYC and his dad was a cop back in the day. He told me some pretty ridiculous stories about how things used to go down in the 60-70s in NYC. It certainly isn't the same city in this regard (which is probably for the better by a pretty wide margin).
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