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Old 07-10-2020, 04:36 AM
 
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Yes, I'm aware those names have British origin, but those places are almost all named after the people who settled/founded them. They weren't exactly named in honor of Britain or anything like that. So how much is that really even "British influenced"? Contrast that with New England, where names of some cities are legitimately named after British cities.

And also, I'm pretty sure a great deal of southerners would classify themselves as being merely "American" in ancestry. There's a Wikipedia article on this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_ancestry
The article explicitly says this is commonly reported by whites from the deep south. Which makes sense. When's the last time you saw a white, native southerner flying a Union Jack flag on their truck or flagpole, and flaunting their British ancestry? I have family in the south, and odds are they're flying an American or Confederate flag, or "Don't Tread On Me". The south is one of the, if not the region in the country that appreciates being American, and American only the most. In other words, proudest of being American.
That's the thing with British influence and how invisible it is because that's the major contributor to American culture. By the 18th century and even before most Americans of British descent considered themselves American without any connection to Great Britain, especially people from the inland.

On the other hand, there's plenty of things where people note the Irish American or German American influence, even though those things have been made in America. For British American, it's hard to tell.

Can Washington State name be considered British influenced ? because that's an English name even though it's name after an American.
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Old 07-10-2020, 10:54 AM
 
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Washington spent the first 2/3rds of his life as a British subject fwiw.
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Old 07-14-2020, 03:23 AM
 
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Except for the language and names of places, I honestly don't think that there is any British influence in America right now. I would consider them traces of the past than influence honestly. I have lived in Georgia for a while and I don't think I have ever thought about King George or England while saying Georgia. It's just a name with a past which is mostly irrelevant now. There are more English speakers in India than America, doesn't mean that UK has any influence in India in the current day. Bottom line it's more like vestiges of the past than current day influence..
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Old 07-14-2020, 03:31 AM
 
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Except for the language and names of places, I honestly don't think that there is any British influence in America right now. I would consider them traces of the past than influence honestly. I have lived in Georgia for a while and I don't think I have ever thought about King George or England while saying Georgia. It's just a name with a past which is mostly irrelevant now. There are more English speakers in India than America, doesn't mean that UK has any influence in India in the current day. Bottom line it's more like vestiges of the past than current day influence..
Agreed. For the most part, the modern UK is not particularly influential on the US.
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Old 07-14-2020, 07:41 AM
 
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Except for the language and names of places, I honestly don't think that there is any British influence in America right now. I would consider them traces of the past than influence honestly. I have lived in Georgia for a while and I don't think I have ever thought about King George or England while saying Georgia. It's just a name with a past which is mostly irrelevant now. There are more English speakers in India than America, doesn't mean that UK has any influence in India in the current day. Bottom line it's more like vestiges of the past than current day influence..
The two most popular sports in India are British sports.

Plus India is totally different. The US was entirely Anglo in like 1795 India was already Indian with a tiny British Ruling class. Culture had to permeate into Indian Society. America was quite literally British for a long time.

It’s not a vestige if Britain defines our Language, dominate religion, Literature, Food, Sport and Legal systems that’s like the whole thing. Even Musical styles orginal to America are blends of British and Afro-Caribbean music.

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Old 07-14-2020, 09:10 AM
 
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There is more modern UK influence in the commonwealth nations including the one north of the border. But we do not lack it either.

Most popular sport is American Football which came from rugby. Even the other sport popularly called "football" around the world, we are tuning in to NBCSN on weekend mornings to watch the Premier League, and in NBC Sports coverage they show plenty of bars with enthusiastic Americans wearing their favorite team's kits cheering. Adele, One direction is loved in America, there is a separate BBC America channel, the Jaguars are owned by a Pakistani Britishman, bagpipes are a common feature among police forces, and in funerals. I am sure there are more. Remember this is modern UK influences. Ancient britain there are a lot more of course including the very language we speak in America.
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Old 10-09-2020, 10:51 AM
 
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Another little thing I found out is that there are at least two rivers in the US that follow the British word order of naming a river, with the word River first followed by the name: The River Styx near Akron, OH and the River Raisin near Monroe, MI. Though our Thames in CT is written the American way (as well as the one in Ontario).
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Old 10-09-2020, 11:15 AM
 
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Another little thing I found out is that there are at least two rivers in the US that follow the British word order of naming a river, with the word River first followed by the name: The River Styx near Akron, OH and the River Raisin near Monroe, MI. Though our Thames in CT is written the American way (as well as the one in Ontario).
There are also towns in New York named in a seeminy British fashion. Such as "Croton on Hudson".
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Old 10-10-2020, 03:04 AM
 
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Well, the typical home-cooked “American meal” is British-based, with a meat, starch (usually potatoes) and a side vegetable as staples. British-based ales are making a comeback, after Germanic lagers (weakened versions) were the go-to for decades. Baked beans, catsup, oatmeal and a whole lot of things we just take for granted growing up in America.
Entertainment-wise, not as much....though it does seem like we need our television and movie actors to sport British accents if the production wants to be taken seriously.
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Old 10-11-2020, 05:02 AM
 
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The two most popular sports in India are British sports.

Plus India is totally different. The US was entirely Anglo in like 1795 India was already Indian with a tiny British Ruling class. Culture had to permeate into Indian Society. America was quite literally British for a long time.

It’s not a vestige if Britain defines our Language, dominate religion, Literature, Food, Sport and Legal systems that’s like the whole thing. Even Musical styles orginal to America are blends of British and Afro-Caribbean music.
Err... in 1795, there was open debate about whether the national language should be German or English. My mother is a Daughter of the American Revolution. The family name is Fritzinger.

I live where the religious cult landed in 1620. All the towns are named after English towns. It has British roots but that was overwhelmed by massive waves of immigration. Here, it’s been dominated by Portuguese-Azores immigration and that’s being displaced by Hispanic immigrants. South of Boston is Irish white flight. My paternal grandparents were born in England but my father grew up in the melting pot. Polish. French Canadian. All of Europe immigrated for the economic opportunities.

The only influence I see is the endless fascination with the Royal family. And I’m a Liverpool fan. LOL
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