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I have a friend from CT who calls me a "Reb" sometimes. He's only joking, but the Union soldiers called the Confederate soldiers "Rebs" or "Rebels" during the Civil War.
Yea but the civil war is not on the forefront of anyone's minds in the Midwest, Northeast or the West coast though, imo.
That's because the former Confederate states have a sense of defeat, unlike the Union states. The South was devastated. Richmond, the Capital of the Confederacy, was destroyed. The whole state of Virginia was stained with blood, most of the war was fought in that state. Sherman ripped Georgia and South Carolina to bits, burning Atlanta and Columbia. Yes, Gettysburg was in Pennsylvania and Antietam was in Maryland, but most of the fighting took place on southern soil.
From Shelby Foote:
"As a Southerner I would say one of the main importances of the war is that Southerners have a sense of defeat which none of the rest of the country has. You see in the movie Patton, the actor who plays Patton saying, “We Americans have never lost a war.” That’s a rather amazing statement for him to make as Patton because Patton’s grandfather was in Lee’s army of Northern Virginia and he certainly lost a war."
I have a friend from CT who calls me a "Reb" sometimes. He's only joking, but the Union soldiers called the Confederate soldiers "Rebs" or "Rebels" during the Civil War.
That never would've occured to me.
If I meet someone from a southern state, I assume they're here (Boston) for either school or work. They obviously didn't move for the weather.
Northerners have no issues with southerners when they move up that way, they don't place that same kind of subtle distaste in their minds, and shun them, due to them being southerners, or because of their accent. Only southerners do this, imo. Us west coasters are also very libertarian, me being a conservative Montana type of libertarian, simply don't think I would care to live anywhere in the south. I would be very hesitant about moving to any southern state, even though I realize there are good people there, and the home prices and taxes are low, which I wish the northern states had going for them as well. Southerners imo, harbor a lot more dislike for anyone outside there region of the USA, then other Americans do toward them imo. Hence the reason lots of folks are real leery about relocating to any southern state, in my opinion. People want to be accepted, and not outcasted or shunned, or made to feel uncomfortable. Change is inevitable, the whole country is going thru it, it is the way it is. Ask the Italians in Benson Hurst Brooklyn what they think about all the Russians that have moved in to their once predominantly Italian town,. Then ask folks in Missoula MT, what they think about all the Californians moving into their city. They still do not typically treat or shun folks the way southerners seem more likely to do imo. They may not like it, but they adjust and just carry on with their lives. Just my opinion and my view.
You're quite wrong about this.
Here's a true life story from just the other day.
My husband is a Texan working as a manager up in Pennsylvania. On his job sites, people have to wear hard hats. He noticed that lots of the guys had written "TAFT" on their hard hats. Well, guess what that means. Think.....
OK - it means "This Ain't F___in Texas." It was their subtle, or not so subtle, way of bucking the Texas (and Louisiana and Oklahoma) companies who were working up there. Yep, they wanted the job, but they didn't want the culture.
They don't wear those hard hats on his locations anymore.
By the way, their "culture" is one of meth and food stamps and massive unemployment so I can't say that the southern influence is a step down in any way, shape or form for them.
If you're from the South, the rest of the nation will always look down on you. Southern accents have turned into a symbol of ignorance and racism. You can deny it if you want, but for the most part, it's true. Jimmy Carter had this problem. Fun fact, Stephen Colbert is from Charleston, South Carolina. He trained himself to lose his southern accent since people had always perceived southern accents as a sign of ignorance. I know the South doesn't have the best history in the Nation, and as a southerner, I can say this. However, it's really hurtful for people to look down on us for something as simple as our accents.
By the way, their "culture" is one of meth and food stamps and massive unemployment so I can't say that the southern influence is a step down in any way, shape or form for them.
It's funny how you always pretend to be fair and balanced yet you take potshots on other regions constantly. More of that infamous "southern hospitality" and "charm" I suppose...
It's funny how you always pretend to be fair and balanced yet you take potshots on other regions constantly. More of that infamous "southern hospitality" and "charm" I suppose...
It's a sad but true fact in that particular part of Pennsylvania (the Appalachians). Meth, food stamps, unemployment - all are rampant there. Meth is such a huge problem in that area that they actually have a weekly publication that publishes MUG SHOTS of the weekly arrests - trying to instill some sort of sense of shame. Not sure whether or not it's working but the publication is a real hoot.
I don't generally put other regions down, but I will state the truth. I actually think Pennsylvania is a beautiful state with tons of fascinating history. But the Appalachian region - south AND north of the Mason Dixon line - has a real problem with meth, poverty, and unemployment. I thought most people knew that.
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