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If this was a poll Philadelphia would be winning by a landslide. Hell, there's people in Delco and Bucks that refuse to visit the Sports Complex out of fear of being shot or carjacked. Thank you channel 3,10, 29 and the Inquirer for the constant fearmongering.
Is it really fair to place blame on the local media for reporting maybe 1% of the current local events like they do for every city? I mean it's a good chance that Philadelphia the city averages crime rates exponentially higher than Bucks or Delco county areas, so it's a fair shake that people from those suburbs would be wary.
I know in Socal crime rates vary throughout the region and Los Angeles is not really very much ahead in terms of crime compared to various suburbs.
So it makes sense if alot of the PA suburbanites are afraid of the main city.
Is it really fair to place blame on the local media for reporting maybe 1% of the current local events like they do for every city? I mean it's a good chance that Philadelphia the city averages crime rates exponentially higher than Bucks or Delco county areas, so it's a fair shake that people from those suburbs would be wary.
I know in Socal crime rates vary throughout the region and Los Angeles is not really very much ahead in terms of crime compared to various suburbs.
So it makes sense if alot of the PA suburbanites are afraid of the main city.
It’s irrational fear. People won’t step foot in the sports complexes or center city out of fear of being shot by some crazy gunmen. 90% of homicides victims are people that have killed themselves or other gang members, or drug dealers, not Joe and Susan from Warrington visiting Love Park
It would be one thing if those people were visiting relatives in Kensington or Strawberry Mansion. OP specified “Core area” which is as safe as ever. Not the outer flung neighborhoods where there more likely to run into crime.
Fascinating reading the 2019 comments to this thread. Seemed so optimistic back then. Between COVID, then the George Floyd protests, then the opioid/mentally ill homeless crisis, it definitely seems like the suburban/city proper divide is back in full vengeance.
New York City proper seems to be a huge demarcation line judging by the New York Governor’s race (places like Nassau and Suffolk went massively red), Philadelphia’s homicide rate has blunted that city’s positive demographic trends (and I see more suburbanites now looking to places like King of Prussia for their entertainment) and same in DC metro area. National Mall doesn’t seem to have much stigma, but neighborhoods that were buzzing pre-COVID now have a vibe of sketch that’s putting off lots of suburbanites.
Places like Columbia Heights, Adams Morgan, and Union Station/Atlas District fit this profile of buzzing pre-COVID but suburbanites aren’t keen on them anymore. It doesn’t help in DC that Northern Virginia is becoming its own fortress, between Reston Town Center, Tysons, Crystal City/National Landing and the Orange Line Corridor, you don’t need to enter DC proper to have a good time.
People are also concerned about spiked drinks in Boston's nightlife. I regularly see people on a competitor site posting about "I think I was drugged/my friend was drugged"
Again-I wouldn't say this is in general but it's increased since 2019- as it has in all cities. The removal of school police (statewide) in 2018, and a more than 5x increase in the rate of juvenile gun arrests since 2018 have also resulted in a slowly declining # of white students and increase in low-income students in public schools after 5 years of increases that began in 2013. This stuff wasn't evident in 2019.
Comment on an article I read the day before Xmas:
capecodeguy
12/24/22 - 1:00PM Just as inner city kids need some type of discipline, just like white folks in rural America, now you have chains leaving the inner cities because of crime that is not prosecuted.
What will our cities look like in a few years. Even Boston can become a shell of hospitals, hi rise buildings and private colleges all in their bubble.Middle class of all races with kids are leaving the cities.
Last edited by BostonBornMassMade; 12-26-2022 at 09:08 AM..
People are also concerned about spiked drinks in Boston's nightlife. I regularly see people on a competitor site posting about "I think I was drugged/my friend was drugged"
Again-I wouldn't say this is in general but it's increased since 2019- as it has in all cities. The removal of school police (statewide) in 2018, and a more than 5x increase in the rate of juvenile gun arrests since 2018 have also resulted in a slowly declining # of white students and increase in low-income students in public schools after 5 years of increases that began in 2013. This stuff wasn't evident in 2019.
Comment on an article I read the day before Xmas:
capecodeguy
12/24/22 - 1:00PM Just as inner city kids need some type of discipline, just like white folks in rural America, now you have chains leaving the inner cities because of crime that is not prosecuted.
What will our cities look like in a few years. Even Boston can become a shell of hospitals, hi rise buildings and private colleges all in their bubble.Middle class of all races with kids are leaving the cities.
I think unfortunately work from Home has caused a good bit of mistrust in general of anything beyond your home town (or neighborhood if in a big city). No matter what the stats say. NYC is a prime example as “crime” has become a huge issue to suburbanites despite no real change since 2019 to 2022. And I think it’s cause middle aged professionals don’t really have the experience of going into Manhattan every day to outweigh whatever is on the evening news. Even if some general hooliganism has increased I don’t think it would have the cultural salience if people had not had their daily routines cleaved from them.
Of course there is the fact that in most cities crime has spiked since 2019 but even in cities it hasn’t (like St Louis, Boston, New York) their reputations seem to have taken a hit.
I think unfortunately work from Home has caused a good bit of mistrust in general of anything beyond your home town (or neighborhood if in a big city). No matter what the stats say. NYC is a prime example as “crime” has become a huge issue to suburbanites despite no real change since 2019 to 2022. And I think it’s cause middle aged professionals don’t really have the experience of going into Manhattan every day to outweigh whatever is on the evening news. Even if some general hooliganism has increased I don’t think it would have the cultural salience if people had not had their daily routines cleaved from them.
There is nothing wrong with people prioritizing their home communities over a nearby big city.
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