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Old 12-31-2019, 11:57 AM
 
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I will take heat/humidity over cold weather/snow any day..
Would you, though, if you didn’t have air conditioning to escape to? Historic population trends suggest most people wouldn’t.
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Old 12-31-2019, 12:03 PM
 
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The simple fact is it’s easier to live with humidity than snow. Air conditioning is better at offsetting the ills of summer than heaters are with winter. What’s more, heat almost all of the country, with simply duration and peak varying. Snow/winter doesn’t affect large swaths of the country. It’s easier to avoid than heat.
If it was, the South should’ve been the most populated region from the inception of the country. There were other mitigating factors, but when it came to weather, the cold was easier. And there is zero tangible difference between how heat makes winter more tolerable versus air conditioning making summer more tolerable. I’m not sure how you could quantify such a difference.
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Old 12-31-2019, 12:06 PM
 
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These were the number of new international immigrants from 2013-2018.

Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 280,250
Houston: 225,100
Dallas/Fort Worth: 225,009
Boston: 131,495
Seattle: 129,967
Orlando: 128,875
Washington DC: 117,693
New York: 112,142
Atlanta: 106,910
San Francisco: 102,845
Philadelphia: 91,594
Tampa: 90,086
Phoenix: 61,428
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 59,602
Las Vegas: 55,655
Riverside: 55,231
Sacramento: 50,795
San Jose: 49,340
Detroit: 45,579
Austin: 44,372
San Antonio: 39,507
Baltimore: 35,784
Charlotte: 35,054
Portland: 31,832
San Diego: 28,443
Denver: 25,728
Los Angeles: -6,982
Chicago: -14,630

And here are is the Mexican immigrant growth from the same time period:

Foreign Born Mexican Growth:
Riverside: 20,344
Detroit: 13,414
Phoenix: 12,552
Las Vegas: 7,912
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 3,648
Boston: 1,538
McAllen: 890
Seattle/Tacoma: 455
Philadelphia: -1,904
Austin: -2,180
Orlando: -6,833
Denver: -6,836
San Antonio: -6,931
Dallas/Fort Worth: -8,982
Washington DC: -11,836
San Jose: -20,583
Houston: -22,251
Atlanta: -28,952
New York: -29,252
San Francisco: -33,271
Chicago: -51,200
Los Angeles: -132,900

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Old 12-31-2019, 12:10 PM
 
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Union owned Illinois is losing 100k net domestic while neighboring right-to-work Indiana and Wisconsin are basically flat. And really concerned about AB5, passed by our completely union controlled state legislature and governor, which could hit LA really hard.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...g-uber-1219575
You’re claiming a correlation, and haven’t proven it. Unions can go too far, but there was a time when most Americans were supportive of unions and proud to have them around. We certainly didn’t have the same massive wealth inequality and tens of millions of working poor when they were more widespread. The destruction of unions was to the sole benefit of corporate interests. Illinois has problems, but they are a lot more complicated than “unions bad!”
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Old 12-31-2019, 12:18 PM
 
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I would caution at looking too deeply at year/year growth.

Rather than NYS actually losing 77k last year it’s more likely it never actually reaches its 2016 peak the estimates said it did.
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Old 12-31-2019, 12:30 PM
 
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If it was, the South should’ve been the most populated region from the inception of the country. There were other mitigating factors, but when it came to weather, the cold was easier. And there is zero tangible difference between how heat makes winter more tolerable versus air conditioning making summer more tolerable. I’m not sure how you could quantify such a difference.
Air conditioning wasn’t around at the inception of the country. The South was also limited in other ways (capital, industry, infrastructure). Disease was also problematic in the the more humid parts of the South for long stretches of our history. The world changed. Winter weather is avoidable in ways never before imagined, helped along by the great sameness that is the American culture that post-war suburbanization has brought. Regional differences have disappeared in large measures.
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Old 12-31-2019, 01:18 PM
 
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I would caution at looking too deeply at year/year growth.

Rather than NYS actually losing 77k last year it’s more likely it never actually reaches its 2016 peak the estimates said it did.
I think the overall issue is that estimates have a history of being off, either way. So, it will be interesting to see what the official numbers are for 2020.
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Old 12-31-2019, 01:19 PM
 
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Did the Census Bureau release 2018-2019 numerical growth/charts for specific cities and/or counties? Or is it only for individual states?
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Old 12-31-2019, 01:21 PM
 
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I have yet to hear anyone with a shred of credibility talk about a potential demise of Atlanta. Its still very much on the right trajectory.
Amen.
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Old 12-31-2019, 01:24 PM
 
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Did the Census Bureau release 2018-2019 numerical growth/charts for specific cities and/or counties? Or is it only for individual states?
I’m pretty sure they use the same estimate base from 2010 for every year and calculate out from there so I’d trust the general trend from 2010 more than year to year
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