Northernmost southern city in the United States? (to move, car)
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I would agree with St. Louis being Midwestern but the city itself and the entire state of Missouri defenitely has southern culture alive and well currently and throughout history!
Yes, though I also think the Kansas City area (mostly in Missouri) is the quintessential American metro.
Yes, though I also think the Kansas City area (mostly in Missouri) is the quintessential American metro.
Kansas City doesn't really have much of a clue of what it wants to be as it is regionally confused with the metro being split in half by the state line, and being at the very edge of the Midwest. Chicago would be far more quintessential as it is demographically similar to the US, Will County, IL being a a good example.
Kansas City doesn't really have much of a clue of what it wants to be as it is regionally confused with the metro being split in half by the state line, and being at the very edge of the Midwest. Chicago would be far more quintessential as it is demographically similar to the US, Will County, IL being a a good example.
Chicago might be average demographically, but not culturally or historically. It's too Great Lakes influenced, but yes, some of its suburbs, particularly the southwest ones in Will County, are good examples of Americana.
I would agree with St. Louis being Midwestern but the city itself and the entire state of Missouri defenitely has southern culture alive and well currently and throughout history!
You're right that Missouri has long been a border state, and without St. Louis it may well have been a decidedly southern state, but because the City of St. Louis was such a staunch Union stronghold during the Civil War (and has always, always been much more northern than southern), the state of Missouri was allowed to sustain dual governments (union/confederate) during the Civil War under the Missouri Compromise. Had MO been a straight up undisputed Southern state, no compromise would have been necessary.
In recent years the state of MO has been trending even more politically with southern states (Josh Hawley/Eric Schmitt - yuck), while St. Louis City and its immediate suburbs continue to trend further and further to the left (Cori Bush).
The urban/rural divide is a nationwide phenomenon, but it is particularly crushing for STL and KC vs. the rest of MO.
You're right that Missouri has long been a border state, and without St. Louis it may well have been a decidedly southern state, but because the City of St. Louis was such a staunch Union stronghold during the Civil War (and has always, always been much more northern than southern), the state of Missouri was allowed to sustain dual governments (union/confederate) during the Civil War under the Missouri Compromise. Had MO been a straight up undisputed Southern state, no compromise would have been necessary.
In recent years the state of MO has been trending even more politically with southern states (Josh Hawley/Eric Schmitt - yuck), while St. Louis City and its immediate suburbs continue to trend further and further to the left (Cori Bush).
The urban/rural divide is a nationwide phenomenon, but it is particularly crushing for STL and KC vs. the rest of MO.
The often-overlooked small city of St. Joseph in the northwest corner of Missouri has always been very Midwestern as well.
It is at the very far southwest edge of the Midwest with some significant influences from the South in the overall culture of the area. It is not similar at all to majority of the Midwest along and north of I-80.
It is at the very far southwest edge of the Midwest with some significant influences from the South in the overall culture of the area. It is not similar at all to majority of the Midwest along and north of I-80.
What southern influences? You always make these statements but never explain.
What southern influences? You always make these statements but never explain.
The southern influences would be a very large contingent of people from the South that have moved there over time, being close to the South geographically, being surrounded by the Bible Belt, and much milder climate with little winter weather at all compared to the majority of the Midwest.
Southern Indiana definitely felt more southern than midwestern
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