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Old 09-13-2022, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Good for Boston. I’m sure most cities could take this route. The census 2020 results will go down as one of the worst census ever taken based on COVID and Trump. Those two factors together makes the 2020 census results invalid. Cities should just keep building as much housing as possible to keep prices down and grow their city so everyone can afford to live there.
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Old 09-15-2022, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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2021 1-year estimates are out.

Heres the demographics of Boston: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...husetts&y=2021


Total Population: 654,281

43.7% Non-Hispanic White
20.5% Hispanic or Latino
19.2% Non-Hispanic Black
9.5% Non-Hispanic Asian
6.1% Two or More races.

Those are all-time lows on any estimate for Non-Hispanic Whites in Boston. Both in absolute number and percentage.

It's also the first time Hispanics have outnumbered non-Hispanic Blacks on any estimate in Boston. It's the first ACS estimate that shows under 20% non-hispanic black, as did the Census.


These estimates also puts the Asian population under 10%, whereas on the Census it was 11%.

The Black alone population was 19.2% of the city but the Black including Latinos and mixed race population reached an all-time high of 188,611 or 28.8% of Boston.

Whites also get a small bump when you include white Hispanics- up to 45.6% but become a massive 58.0% when you include those of mixed white ancestry.

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Old 09-15-2022, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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Originally Posted by BostonBornMassMade View Post
2021 1-year estimates are out.

Heres the demographics of Boston: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...husetts&y=2021


Total Population: 654,281

43.7% Non-Hispanic White
20.5% Hispanic or Latino
19.2% Non-Hispanic Black
9.5% Non-Hispanic Asian
6.1% Two or More races.

Those are all-time lows on any estimate for Non-Hispanic Whites in Boston. Both in absolute number and percentage.

It's also the first time Hispanics have outnumbered non-Hispanic Blacks on any estimate in Boston. It's the first ACS estimate that shows under 20% non-hispanic black, as did the Census.


These estimates also puts the Asian population under 10%, whereas on the Census it was 11%.

The Black alone population was 19.2% of the city but the Black including Latinos and mixed race population reached an all-time high of 188,611 or 28.8% of Boston.

Whites also get a small bump when you include white Hispanics- up to 45.6% but become a massive 58.0% when you include those of mixed white ancestry.
These numbers are so unreliable. You just can't trust these estimates that keep going down when cities rebounded heavily in 2021.
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Old 09-15-2022, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Originally Posted by BostonBornMassMade View Post
2021 1-year estimates are out.

Heres the demographics of Boston: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...husetts&y=2021


Total Population: 654,281

43.7% Non-Hispanic White
20.5% Hispanic or Latino
19.2% Non-Hispanic Black
9.5% Non-Hispanic Asian
6.1% Two or More races.

Those are all-time lows on any estimate for Non-Hispanic Whites in Boston. Both in absolute number and percentage.

It's also the first time Hispanics have outnumbered non-Hispanic Blacks on any estimate in Boston. It's the first ACS estimate that shows under 20% non-hispanic black, as did the Census.


These estimates also puts the Asian population under 10%, whereas on the Census it was 11%.

The Black alone population was 19.2% of the city but the Black including Latinos and mixed race population reached an all-time high of 188,611 or 28.8% of Boston.

Whites also get a small bump when you include white Hispanics- up to 45.6% but become a massive 58.0% when you include those of mixed white ancestry.
Time for a new demographics thread!
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Old 09-15-2022, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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These numbers are so unreliable. You just can't trust these estimates that keep going down when cities rebounded heavily in 2021.
ACS numbers for larger cities here are pretty reliable and consistent. These one here are inline with the Census more or less. And most large cities likely saw population loss in 2021 and a shift to suburbs. Leases still were had if people really did come back to the cities in 2021 it probably wasn’t until the end of the year. There was a global pandemic millions of people died with a casual link to crowdedness, life was upended thousands likely diesd in every city. I think it’s unrealistic to think population didn’t take a in major cities in 2021 and that everyone returnees and it rebounded that quickly. Major transit systems aren’t even close to their peak ridership and some areas, even in Boston, still see decreased foot traffic.

I don’t think these number are nearly as unreliable as this past census tbh. They consistently do these and I think their methodology is more consistent. For smaller cities there is certainly much more variation and 1 year ACS become less helpful there.
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Old 09-15-2022, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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ACS numbers for larger cities here are pretty reliable and consistent. These one here are inline with the Census more or less. And most large cities likely saw population loss in 2021 and a shift to suburbs. Leases still were had if people really did come back to the cities in 2021 it probably wasn’t until the end of the year. There was a global pandemic millions of people died with a casual link to crowdedness, life was upended thousands likely diesd in every city. I think it’s unrealistic to think population didn’t take a in major cities in 2021 and that everyone returnees and it rebounded that quickly. Major transit systems aren’t even close to their peak ridership and some areas, even in Boston, still see decreased foot traffic.

I don’t think these number are nearly as unreliable as this past census tbh. They consistently do these and I think their methodology is more consistent. For smaller cities there is certainly much more variation and 1 year ACS become less helpful there.
wfh

my company in nyc/nj/phl/swct has 15,000 employees. Only 8% of people have visited the office in the past month.
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Old 09-15-2022, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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wfh

my company in nyc/nj/phl/swct has 15,000 employees. Only 8% of people have visited the office in the past month.
Wfh allowed people to move. Many did. We see it with increased populations in suburbs and outer ring cities but the decreased population estimates in central cities. It also explain why some more suburban type cities didn’t see any population loss and why some states didn’t see population loss but others did.
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Old 09-15-2022, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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wfh

my company in nyc/nj/phl/swct has 15,000 employees. Only 8% of people have visited the office in the past month.
To this point…


Between 2019 and 2021, the number of people primarily working from home tripled from 5.7% (roughly 9 million people) to 17.9% (27.6 million people), according to new 2021 American Community Survey (ACS) 1-year estimates released today by the U.S. Census Bureau. Nearly half (48.3%) of workers in the District of Columbia worked from home, the highest percentage of home-based workers among states and state equivalents in 2021. In addition to the District of Columbia, states with the highest percentage of home-based workers were Washington (24.2%), Maryland (24.0%), Colorado (23.7%) and Massachusetts (23.7%). (These four states were not statistically different from each other.)

https://www.justtherealnews.com/exec...munity-survey/
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Old 09-16-2022, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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These numbers are so unreliable. You just can't trust these estimates that keep going down when cities rebounded heavily in 2021.
It’s pretty well documented from almost every media outlet and planning entity that cities have pretty much completely rebounded and surpassed their 2020 census populations by now September 2022. These numbers are over a year old because they were taken in July 2021. The entire country should just skip these numbers because every city is going to register a loss for July 2021. Even the city of Atlanta and Dallas etc. had a population loss and you know how laughable that is. It’s a blip.


Look no further than rental price increases and occupancy stats to see a national return to the city.
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Old 09-16-2022, 10:15 AM
 
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Originally Posted by BostonBornMassMade View Post
2021 1-year estimates are out.

Heres the demographics of Boston: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...husetts&y=2021


Total Population: 654,281

43.7% Non-Hispanic White
20.5% Hispanic or Latino
19.2% Non-Hispanic Black
9.5% Non-Hispanic Asian
6.1% Two or More races.

Those are all-time lows on any estimate for Non-Hispanic Whites in Boston. Both in absolute number and percentage.

It's also the first time Hispanics have outnumbered non-Hispanic Blacks on any estimate in Boston. It's the first ACS estimate that shows under 20% non-hispanic black, as did the Census.


These estimates also puts the Asian population under 10%, whereas on the Census it was 11%.

The Black alone population was 19.2% of the city but the Black including Latinos and mixed race population reached an all-time high of 188,611 or 28.8% of Boston.

Whites also get a small bump when you include white Hispanics- up to 45.6% but become a massive 58.0% when you include those of mixed white ancestry.
Wow. So despite the heavy black African/Caribbean immigration (especially Haitian) into Boston, it still decreased in percentage. That migration wave must not have been as strong as we thought, or maybe there's a helluva lot of black Americans leaving.
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