2020 USA Urban Areas per US Census Release Schedule (college, estimates)
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The real driver of density appears to be the 1,000/sm standard (or whatever it's been converted to) vs. something like 2,000 or 3,000. Cities with large 1,000-2,000/sm fringes tend to rank poorly.
Boston having a larger Urban Area than DC or LA by land area is why i cant take UA seriously for everyone..
NYC has a larger UA than Tokyo, but has less than half it's population.
As long as Boston meets the stricter minimum density thresholds I don't see why it's a problem especially when UA makes it clear as day it's UA is not a dense (weighted density aside). Its UA falls right in line with it's GDP/MSA figures
Can’t wait to see a map of all these different UAs and how close they are to touching. Also fwiw, Concord and Dover-Rochester would add another 114,972.
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New York 19,426,449 *Los Angeles-Riverside - 14,515,079
Los Angeles 12,237,376
Chicago - 8,671,746
*DC-Baltimore - 7,386,797
Miami 6,077,522
Houston - 5,853,575
Dallas-Fort Worth - 5,732,354
Philadelphia - 5,696,125
DC - 5,174,759 *San Franciso-Oakland-San Jose - 5,106,831
Atlanta - 4,999,259
Boston - 4,382,009
Phoenix - 3,976,313
Detroit - 3,776,890
Seattle - 3,544,011
San Francisco-Oakland - 3,269,385
San Diego - 3,070,300
Minneapolis-St.Paul - 2,914,866
Denver - 2,686,147
Riverside - 2,276,703
Tampa - 2,783,045
Baltimore - 2,212,038
Las Vegas - 2,196,623
Saint Louis - 2,156,323
Portland - 2,104,238
Sacramento - 1,946,618
San Antonio - 1,992,689
Orlando - 1,853,896
San Jose - 1,837,446
Austin - 1,809,888
Pittsburgh - 1,745,039
Cleveland - 1,712,178
Indianapolis 1,699,881
Cincinnati - 1,686,744
Kansas City 1,674,218
Columbus - 1,567,254
Virginia Beach-Norfolk 1,451,578
Charlotte - 1,379,873
Milwaukee - 1,306,795
Providence 1,285,806
Jacksonville - 1,247,374
Salt Lake City - 1,178,533
Nashville - 1,158,642
Raleigh-Durham - 1,106,646
Richmond - 1,059,150
Memphis - 1,056,190
LA's figure should also include at minimum Southern Orange County (Mission Viejo--Lake Forest--Laguna Niguel), which brings the tally up to 15,160,922.
I have no idea how the census defines contiguous urban areas, but their methodology seems to be bunk especially for Western American cities. According to their methodology, the official urban area of LA is smaller than checks notes Philadelphia and Boston.
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I wonder if DFW will retake the lead this decade.
The DFW CSA has almost a million more people.
It's crazy that almost all of Miami’s MSA is in its CSA
UA is Miami's best metric. It really highlights the density. It also does with SF and SJ on density, but doesn't combine them yet.
Certain calculations favor certain cities instead of others. It's like when I posted a thread not long ago with radius populations from the city center. Miami and SF were beat up in that metric due to the presence of water in the metro, and how it broke up the land population in a circle. But they crush in actual density when calculating just the actual land mass.
LA's figure should also include at minimum Southern Orange County (Mission Viejo--Lake Forest--Laguna Niguel), which brings the tally up to 15,160,922.
I have no idea how the census defines contiguous urban areas, but their methodology seems to be bunk especially for Western American cities. According to their methodology, the official urban area of LA is smaller than checks notes Philadelphia and Boston.
The methodology has been posted for over 2 years and is with the release.
Idk why people would think they are experts and the Census is clueless.
People crunch these numbers as a living. They know better than you, and there is a reason for deciding what is excluded and what isn't.
How is it that people with access to the data is clueless while you, who just eyeball it, is correct?
The OMB left out certain areas from EVERY metro, why do yall guys feel you have to add them back?
The methodology has been posted for over 2 years and is with the release.
Idk why people would think they are experts and the Census is clueless.
People crunch these numbers as a living. They know better than you, and there is a reason for deciding what is excluded and what isn't.
How is it that people with access to the data is clueless while you, who just eyeball it, is correct?
The OMB left out certain areas from EVERY metro, why do yall guys feel you have to add them back?
Yeah it’s just well known since people lived there pre-subdivision the east coast and like Ohio/MI have much softer edges than the west.
If Boston was a western city Lowell-Lawrence would probably be a 2nd urban area but just enough people live between 495 and 128 to glue them together . A city like Cleveland started suburbanization just after WWI not WWII for example.
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