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It's so bizarre that if a man slaps his wife and hits her with a belt, it's domestic abuse and he can go to jail, but if she's a 17-year-old child it's totally fine and nobody's business.
Who said anything about beating anyone? There is a difference between beating someone and normal parental discipline.
The Grandfather did not beat the girl. Slapping might be a tad much but it is nothing extreme or unheard of when you mouth off to your parents for grandparents. Belt is certainly normal disciplining.
WTF is wrong with people here? So many of you have your normal meters that are severely BROKEN!
No matter WHAT the daughter did, it is NOT her grandfather's place to hit her. This girl is 17, she's still a minor, she may think she's an adult but she's not. She may have made some bad choices, but hitting her does NOTHING to change that.
And now all she knows is that her father basically did nothing to protect her when her grandfather assaulted her.
Yes I think that 17 year old should be talked to and also her computer privileges revoked, but I also think grandfather should ALSO be cut out of their lives.
OP should apologize to his daughter as well for not protecting her against his abusive father.
If grandfather were a complete stranger who hit the 17 year old with a belt I bet people would be telling OP to call the police and so on, so why is the fact he's faaaaammmiiiillllyyyy (gag me) make a difference? Family should be held to a HIGHER standard than strangers.
Why is everyone saying the GF should not have disciplined the daughter?
I have def been disciplined by my grandparents on more than one occasion.
Young kids need to learn respect.
I'm sorry your parents let your grandparents beat you.
Here's some books it sounds like some people need to read really badly:
BOOKS ABOUT GASLIGHTING
In Sheep's Clothing: Understanding and Dealing with Manipulative People - George K. Simon Ph.D.
The Gaslight Effect: How to Spot and Survive the Hidden Manipulation Others Use to Control Your Life - Robin Stern
BOOKS ABOUT ABUSIVE PARENTS
Why Does He Do That?: Inside the Minds of Angry and Controlling Men - Lundy Bancroft
The Father Factor: How Your Father's Legacy Impacts Your Career - Stephan B. Poulter
WTF is wrong with people here? So many of you have your normal meters that are severely BROKEN!
No matter WHAT the daughter did, it is NOT her grandfather's place to hit her. This girl is 17, she's still a minor, she may think she's an adult but she's not. She may have made some bad choices, but hitting her does NOTHING to change that.
And now all she knows is that her father basically did nothing to protect her when her grandfather assaulted her.
Yes I think that 17 year old should be talked to and also her computer privileges revoked, but I also think grandfather should ALSO be cut out of their lives.
OP should apologize to his daughter as well for not protecting her against his abusive father.
If grandfather were a complete stranger who hit the 17 year old with a belt I bet people would be telling OP to call the police and so on, so why is the fact he's faaaaammmiiiillllyyyy (gag me) make a difference? Family should be held to a HIGHER standard than strangers.
Grandparents are different than your child's friends or the kid in the neighborhood.
Nothing wrong with grandparents disciplining their grandchildren.
I'm sorry your parents let your grandparents beat you.
Here's some books it sounds like some people need to read really badly:
BOOKS ABOUT GASLIGHTING
In Sheep's Clothing: Understanding and Dealing with Manipulative People - George K. Simon Ph.D.
The Gaslight Effect: How to Spot and Survive the Hidden Manipulation Others Use to Control Your Life - Robin Stern
BOOKS ABOUT ABUSIVE PARENTS
Why Does He Do That?: Inside the Minds of Angry and Controlling Men - Lundy Bancroft
The Father Factor: How Your Father's Legacy Impacts Your Career - Stephan B. Poulter
I was never beat, although I was disciplined on a few occasions.
I am sorry that you do not see the role discipline plays in child rearing.
Grandparents are different than your child's friends or the kid in the neighborhood.
Nothing wrong with grandparents disciplining their grandchildren.
Assaulted her?!? LMAO
Cut from their lives?!? SMDH
So basically if a complete stranger had done the SAME THING you'd have been okay with it?
Your right, grandparents ARE different, they are family and should be held to HIGHER standards than a stranger. Being family doesn't give you a pass to be abusive. If it's abuse from a stranger than it's STILL abuse from family.
Not only did this grandparent overstep his boundaries, he showed his grand daughter he's not a safe person and her father showed her he won't protect her from that person. I guarantee she will never feel the same about her grandfather again.
Spanking / Hitting is a form of discipline. Which in reason is not abuse.
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