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Old 12-20-2013, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Nobody is "subsidizing" anything, and *sigh* it won't be long before busybodies carp about "their personal space" with respect to e-cigs, thereby relegating those users, like tobacco smokers, to stand around building perimeters as if they were bums.

Some people wouldn't know how to act if they weren't minding everyone else's business.
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Old 12-20-2013, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Bay Area, CA/Seattle, WA
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Why cant people just mind their own dang business?
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Old 12-20-2013, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Ontario
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If it's considerably safer than tobacco then it's a step in the right direction and must remain legal until something better comes along. Frankly it doesn't matter if some people are upset by it, why do the ones doing the complaining always have to be the ones who get their way?
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Old 12-22-2013, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Some things we breathe we can control.......some we cannot. This is one of those that falls into the "can" category. Non-users right not to be exposed to and breathe the residuals supersedes the user's right to use them. As I stated in my previous post, we shouldn't even have to have this debate. Users should have the courtesy not to use them in a public setting where others will be exposed but unfortunately we live in a "I will do whatever I want to" society so we have to pass laws for such minuscule things.
Still wrong.

The fact is that the jury's still out regarding these e-cigs. As of now, there's no proof that exhaled vapor is harming anyone, and there had better be such proof before rights of others are infringed upon.

As I stated in my previous post, there will always be people who invent "offenses" where there are none.
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Old 12-22-2013, 11:34 AM
 
Location: CA
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As electronic cigarettes grow in popularity, I'm waiting for the other shoe to fall. Even though nothing burns when someone "smokes" (vapes) one, and even though the steam dissipates immediately upon exhaling, and leaves no lingering odor, why do I have the feeling that some people will jump on the bandwagon to have them banned in restaurants and other public places?
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What are your thoughts? Have there been any developments in your area? Do you see an increase in the usage of e-cigarettes where you live?
I think the anti-smoking industry needs to 'look busy' and keep their cash-cow milking. And, the e-cig is too close for comfort.

I work at a major university that is going smoke-free in January, and they have also banned e-cigs based on it being unregulated. Never mind that it's actually a 'smoke-free' alternative.... that has helped many to quit smoking.

One would think they may research it a bit more themselves. but sometimes the 'institution of higher learning' is not so much.
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Old 12-22-2013, 11:37 AM
 
Location: CA
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P.S. No Clear Link Between Passive Smoking and Lung Cancer
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Old 01-25-2014, 08:48 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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I think the anti-smoking industry needs to 'look busy' and keep their cash-cow milking. And, the e-cig is too close for comfort.

I work at a major university that is going smoke-free in January, and they have also banned e-cigs based on it being unregulated. Never mind that it's actually a 'smoke-free' alternative.... that has helped many to quit smoking.

One would think they may research it a bit more themselves. but sometimes the 'institution of higher learning' is not so much.
I hate to see such ignorance. I transferred my nicotine addiction to an e-cigarette in 2013 and I now own an ejuice company. I quit smoking cigarettes but obviously am still addicted to nicotine. Aside from some dehydration at first which I easily solved by drinking more water, I have not noticed any negative effects from vaping and I feel better and more energetic. The wheezing that used to plague me due to my asthma is now gone.
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Old 02-01-2014, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Central Florida
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I vape in public, like at McDonalds. I've not had a problem with it yet. Most people smell cigarettes before they see the smoke, and e-cig vapor usually has no odor. I've got a few confused looks but no complaints. The e-cigs I smoke don't look identical to real cigarettes, though, they have a small button on them and the light on the tip is blue.


I quit smoking years ago but recently took up e-cigs during a stressful time; I enjoy it. I'm on disability and have few pleasures left in life, and tired of paying attention to what others think of me.
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Old 02-01-2014, 07:21 PM
 
Location: WA
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I think there are many of us who remember a time when second-hand cigarette smoke was commonplace pretty much everywhere, be it in our parents' homes, our grandparents' homes, our friends' homes, maybe the grocery store, usually the bowling alley or pool hall, most restaurants, the bar, the casino, state and federal buildings, the county courthouse, the laundromat, hospital waiting rooms, public transportation, and so on.

The widespread eradication of public smoking has really only been a public health objective for what, fifteen years, and some people are already losing their sh*t over something that, in my view, ultimately boils down to nothing more than being simply turned off by the sight of a behavior that too closely resembles cigarette smoking (and OMG, in public!!!).

Sorry, but I'm not one to join the chorus of outrage over a non-issue like this.

Blow it at me for all I care.
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Old 02-02-2014, 07:13 PM
 
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The look stupid.
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