If the south wanted to secede now would the rest of america have any objections. (enemies, weapons)
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There are roughly 120,000,000 people that live in the south. That is more than 1/3 the population of the US. It is kind of a stupid question to ask. Furthermore, it was the secession of the south that started the civil war that got us the stupid flag to begin with. It is also about a third of the land mass of the continental US (not including Alaska).
Here, in a nutshell, someone has spouted all the mean stereotypes and generalizations of Southerners and rural conservatives, those people that our President said were "clinging to their guns and religion..."
This thread in many ways is typical of the dysfunction and disunity plaguing our entire country: complete intolerance of "the other side", abandonment of religion among academic and urban populations resulting in contempt for the remaining religious population, etc.
It would be easy to say: no, you leave, and don't let the door hit you on the way out. But in reality, we have to try to reconcile our differences and get along. It used to be a given (after 1865, at least) that we were one country, not always in agreement, not always liking each other, but still we're all Americans.
Now I wonder if that sense of nationality has finally disappeared. Maybe it was an artificial thing, forged in the two great World Wars and the shared suffering of the Depression.
It seems people today, ever since the so-called liberation of the 1960s, stick to their narrow self-interests, their narrow little beliefs, and are completely intolerant of disagreement. The closing of the American mind, indeed.
I have yet to hear a candidate for the Republican nomination suggesting succession. Since a good number of these people are fringe-element lunatics, I really don't think there's much interest in doing this among the general population.
Why would they? What purpose would it serve? The south as a whole is too poorly educated and doesn't make enough money to support itself, and like the lazy cousin of a well-to-do family, requires the financial assistance of the North to feed itself and keep from living under a bridge. Cutting itself off from the family that sends it the rent check every month would be suicide, and even most southerners are smart enough to understand that.
I for one love Southerners and Southern culture. If they want to wave their damn battle flag, fine go ahead, as long as their allegiance is to the US at the end of the day. I don't think anyone would really support it. With Hispanics, Northerners, and blacks from other regions flowing into the South by the millions, white Southerners with an extremist secession attitude are most likely a tiny minority these days anyway.
Obama should declare war on the South and invade Ft. Sumter, take it back, and then fight to kick the South out of the USA to right the wrongs of Lincoln in 1861.
I think they should be two different countries. Its obvious the value systems are significantly different. I think they are basically incompatible, no one is happy with anyone or anything.
Another "what if" to add to the pot.If the south wanted to secede again what states do you think would NOT want to secede this time.I would definitely say texas.Never thought of texas being southern. Obviously western.
Never thought of texas being southern. Obviously western.
Though all parts of Texas have a southeren influence, southeren culture in "deep east Texas" (the eastern fifth of Texas) is extremely strong. As Texas is well, as big as Texas, "deep east Texas" is as large as many of the southeren states such as Alabama.
I have yet to hear a candidate for the Republican nomination suggesting succession. Since a good number of these people are fringe-element lunatics, I really don't think there's much interest in doing this among the general population.
Google Perry and secession.
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