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Old 02-17-2018, 01:08 PM
 
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In other words, don't think about solving any problems.

Or, of course, you're free to offer some suggestions to solve the problem.
I'm just playing devil's advocate.

I think the age should be the same. If your old enough to vote, join the military, be considered a legal adult, you can own firearm, you can drink alcohol etc...

Now what that age should be... I don't know. 18, 19 or 20. But be consistent and say "at 18/19/20 you're now an adult". Being an adult means you can be charged in crimes as an adult, you can get tattoos, you can vote, own property, drafted or join the military, own guns, buy alcohol/tobacco/marijuana depending on your state etc..
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Old 02-17-2018, 01:22 PM
 
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No! If you are old enough to join the military and fight for your country, then you should be guaranteed the right to own a firearm.

And anyway..... you can always buy what you want on the street.
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Old 02-17-2018, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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In my state of Mass. in order to buy a rifle a person has to be at least 18<>What do you think? Should it be 21?
The DOT was able to force the issue on the speed limit and the drinking age because of the power of the purse and POTUS executive orders, not due to action of Congress. Neither action involved a relevant Amendment or other Constitutional provision.
What you suggest is the law in many States, especially ones where hunting is not a big deal. In some other States a younger citizen can carry while under the control of an adult in well defined circumstances.
This is a fine example of why laws vary from State to State, especially with regard to the training and safety rules.
Careful, though, you are skirting a conversation about Federal Carry Laws.
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Old 02-17-2018, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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The DOT was able to force the issue on the speed limit and the drinking age because of the power of the purse and POTUS executive orders, not due to action of Congress. Neither action involved a relevant Amendment or other Constitutional provision.
What you suggest is the law in many States, especially ones where hunting is not a big deal. In some other States a younger citizen can carry while under the control of an adult in well defined circumstances.
This is a fine example of why laws vary from State to State, especially with regard to the training and safety rules.
Careful, though, you are skirting a conversation about Federal Carry Laws.

I'm not suggesting that we limit kids that they cannot go hunting or to the range with mom or dad. That is a fine tradition that should not be infringed on but it certainly will be if the Left and the knee jerkers had their way which I fear is coming in 2020 if a Democrat is elected.

I am suggesting that we should consider raising the age where a young adult can walk into a gun shop present the proper ID required for that state, fill out the paper work and walk out with a high powered rifle.
I know that 99% of kids will treat that gun with the respect that it requires and they will operate within the confines of the law but it is the 1% that I am worried about and the habit of the Left lumping the good law abiding citizen in with the dangerous 1%.


Of course if there are guns in the house and hopefully they are secured so a kid cannot get their hands on them who is to say that a bullied kid won't flip out and take one of those guns to school?
We had that very situation where the teen murdered his mom, stole her gun and went on a rampage.


I see raising the age to 21 nationwide a good alternative to what the Left is demanding and that is an outright ban on scary looking black guns that they don't understand.
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Old 02-17-2018, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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I say raise the age of any gun ownership to 21. Rental car companies don't rent to people under the age of 21, why? Because they consider them a bad risk and prone to do something stupid so why do we allow the under 21 crowd to buy guns?
Hmmmm...because those who SELL guns are not accountable for the damage done so why would they want to cut down their customer base?
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Old 02-17-2018, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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I just saw this on Yahoo news. I can't believe that I actually agree with this woman.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/sen-feins...075036864.html
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Old 02-17-2018, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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Of course if there are guns in the house and hopefully they are secured so a kid cannot get their hands on them who is to say that a bullied kid won't flip out and take one of those guns to school?
We had that very situation where the teen murdered his mom, stole her gun and went on a rampage.


I see raising the age to 21 nationwide a good alternative to what the Left is demanding and that is an outright ban on scary looking black guns that they don't understand.
Many people who own guns start their kids out at 12 or even younger handling guns...."so they are educated". I have no idea that what these people do has anything to do with gun safety or not but I'm pretty sure they won't take kindly to anyone telling them that THEIR kids can't shoot the family's guns - they were all purchased legal, ya know!
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Old 02-17-2018, 02:59 PM
 
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Hmmmm...because those who SELL guns are not accountable for the damage done so why would they want to cut down their customer base?
Should car salesmen be punished if they sell a car to a guy who later kills someone in a DUI?
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Old 02-17-2018, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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I thought firearms laws were Federal. I wasn't aware that the background checks and age restrictions were up to the individual states.
OP, have you written to your Senator and Congressional Representative about this issue?
If not, why?
Do you really think you will accomplish anything other than discussion by posting on a forum?
If you want a law passed, there are ways to accomplish it. Posting on this or any other forum is NOT one of the ways!
I got my first guns (a .22 single shot pistol and a .22 bolt action rifle) at age 12. Needless to say, I won't be in line to sign your petition!
That is, IF you are more than an internet warrior, and actually take the time to start a petition. What age will you call for?
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Old 02-17-2018, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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I say raise the age of any gun ownership to 21. Rental car companies don't rent to people under the age of 21, why? Because they consider them a bad risk and prone to do something stupid so why do we allow the under 21 crowd to buy guns?
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Hmmmm...because those who SELL guns are not accountable for the damage done so why would they want to cut down their customer base?
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Should car salesmen be punished if they sell a car to a guy who later kills someone in a DUI?
Stop jumping to your own conclusions - my point was that what works for car rentals won't work for guns so come up with another plan...and learn how to argue a whole lot better.
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