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What would be interesting is for YOU to research each of the alleged "voter fraud" examples you cite above, to either prove (unlikely) or disprove (more likely) their authenticity. Otherwise, "one I remember which seems to have disappeared from my search engine" is meaningless hearsay not to be taken seriously by anyone.
Claims of widespread voter fraud (always perpetrated by Democrats against Republicans) have been debunked time and time again. Evidence supporting most of these claims simply does not exist, while evidence to the contrary is overwhelming. For examples, just consider the endless bogus claims of voter fraud made by President Trump. Facts be damned!
Certainly you aren't implying that our courts haven't prosecuted people for voter fraud in MN? That would be really out of touch.
Sorry, I am here in MN. Others here will remember the Hennepin County ballot scandal even though it seems to have been scrubbed from the current data base. What Trump is doing has nothing to do with the veracity of the truth of my remarks about voter fraud in MN. It's been in our newspapers, on Public Radio and in our towns. We know the actual players. The acts have been blatant and are well known.
Certainly even you remember the missing votes "found in a car trunk" during Al Franken's run for Senator. I can provide validation for each of my remarks but I won't bother. They can easily be found on line at reputable sources.
Here in MN I personally know a handful of legislators from whom I can get a much more valid perspective than then the history revisionists active on the internet. The larger question is why they exist at all.
When I vote here now I am never even asked for proof of citizenship or of present residence. I find that counterintuitive and a potentially damaging practice. Why would this be a concern for only one party? I would expect all voting Americans to want to know who is voting in their precinct.
An even more pertinent question is why is the truth of the matter getting more difficult to validate? And why perhaps, no matter who we vote for of the poor choices we get, we get more of the same in the end? I find those questions very interesting.
Certainly you aren't implying that our courts haven't prosecuted people for voter fraud in MN? That would be really out of touch.
Sorry, I am here in MN. Others here will remember the Hennepin County ballot scandal even though it seems to have been scrubbed from the current data base. What Trump is doing has nothing to do with the veracity of the truth of my remarks about voter fraud in MN. It's been in our newspapers, on Public Radio and in our towns. We know the actual players. The acts have been blatant and are well known.
Certainly even you remember the missing votes "found in a car trunk" during Al Franken's run for Senator. I can provide validation for each of my remarks but I won't bother. They can easily be found on line at reputable sources.
Here in MN I personally know a handful of legislators from whom I can get a much more valid perspective than then the history revisionists active on the internet. The larger question is why they exist at all.
When I vote here now I am never even asked for proof of citizenship or of present residence. I find that counterintuitive and a potentially damaging practice. Why would this be a concern for only one party? I would expect all voting Americans to want to know who is voting in their precinct.
An even more pertinent question is why is the truth of the matter getting more difficult to validate? And why perhaps, no matter who we vote for of the poor choices we get, we get more of the same in the end? I find those questions very interesting.
You don't cite to a single article or source.
Possibly a handful of people in MN committed voter fraud. That kind of thing occasionally happens. Widespread voter fraud? No.
Saying "its been in our newspapers and public radio" doesn't cut it. We want the date, newspaper, name of article etc. You can look up old stories on national public radio. I've done it. Apparently, you either won't take the time or can't find it.
These allegations have been made by conservatives for years, but there is no substance to them when you drill down on them--other than to possibly point to a handful of instances where one or two people voted twice or such.
Sorry, your post doesn't pass the smell test. Claiming that the system is rife with voting fraud is quite an accusation. Its akin to accusing someone of being dishonest and a cheat. It should hardly surprise you that people ask for proof. If you can't provide it....well....you look pretty ridiculous.
Combing through the detailed election results it looks like there always specks of blue in deep-red states. Take West Virginia for example, which one of the most deep-red states in the country. The top three towns, in population, Charleston, Huntington, and Morgantown, all had their city areas go to Hillary Clinton. Note, they are all tiny cities with Charleston being largest of them with only about 50,000.
You see the same pattern in other deep-red states like South Carolina. Where again its largest city (Columbia) has only 120,000 people but votes very democratic.
None of these cities really are urban-like you expect of a large metro packed with people. I would expect perfect kind of small cities republicans can speak to but somehow they don't manage to?
It's well-off white people moving into cities that's turning them blue. Ask any Texas conservative why Texas is turning purple and they'll tell you it's the tech workers moving from California to Texas.
No, they won't. They'll tell you it's the Mexicans. Of course, Asians and Californians also contribute to this problem in MUCH smaller numbers.
This is a very interesting comment. It is indicative of the fact that many republican conservatives don't understand that there are reasons for voting that go beyond simple self-interest.
Some of us actually just want a better country and we perceive democrat policies as the way to get there.
Let me give some examples:
1. Democrats support doing something about climate change because of us believe the future is bleaker for succeeding generations if we fail to do so. We will get little out of it, but its still the right thing to do.
2. Democrats support rights for LGBTQ people even though most us are not LGBTQ ourselves. We simply believe all people are entitled to equal rights under the law and moving toward that goal is the right thing to do.
3. Democrats support some type of universal health care or insurance not so much because we personally lack health care, but because we believe any prosperous nation should provide health care to its citizens because it is the right thing to do.
I actually sort of feel sorry for someone who never gets beyond "what's good for #1" when they vote.
That is unbelievably obnoxious and ignorant sanctimony. The notion that you get little out of stopping climate change is utterly insane. Are you doing it for the Martians? Republicans are more opposed to climate change than are Democrats, by the way. We just don't trust people like you when you tell us to take your word that it's happening because of human activity, and we realize there's really nothing that can be done about it.
LGBTQ people have always had the same rights as everyone else. Your agenda is not altruistic; it's destructive.
Universal health care paid for by taxation is a fundamentally evil idea since it entails slavery.
That is unbelievably obnoxious and ignorant sanctimony. The notion that you get little out of stopping climate change is utterly insane. Are you doing it for the Martians? Republicans are more opposed to climate change than are Democrats, by the way. We just don't trust people like you when you tell us to take your word that it's happening because of human activity, and we realize there's really nothing that can be done about it.
It needs to be done for my children, for your children, for the neighbor's children, and the generations who come after them.
Yeah, its really laughable to imagine accomplishing reductions in Co2 without action from government. I know you guys have a real problem with government. Yet, we might just as well throw in the towel on this issue if we don't accept that some governmental action is going to be required to solve this problem.
What I really notice about the right wing these days is their anger and fear. You can't run a country on anger and fear and mark my words that ultimately is going to be your downfall.
LGBTQ people have always had the same rights as everyone else. Your agenda is not altruistic; it's destructive.
They could not marry. They did not have standard inheritance rights. Nothing in federal law prohibits employment discrimination against LBGTQ people. "Had the same rights"? Huh. Do you even pay attention to what goes on around you?
Universal health care paid for by taxation is a fundamentally evil idea since it entails slavery.
Most of us don't respond anymore to general arguments that "this is socialistic". You didn't use those words, but its clearly what you are implying. There are legitimate arguments to be made about universal health care. Those arguments pertain to the cost of the care and the quality of the care that would be rendered. Those arguments I listen too. General claims that "this is socialism" I ignore. It takes more than someone using cliches like "socialist" or "slavery" to even get most of us to care. On the other hand, you seem to think nothing of the "evil" of letting some people do without medical care as long as it furthers some ideological agenda you have. That to me, is truly "evil". Please note, I don't support single payer health care. I support an extension of the Affordable Care Act so that those who want to keep their health insurance get to do so and those who need health insurance can obtain it from the government.
Where Biff the football player in his glory days got the prettiest cheerleader because it's the natural order of whitebread John-Cougar-Mellencamp's-Ain't-That-America-Home-of-The-Free-Yeah.
This is a seriously ignorant quote. To incorrectly construe the song that contains the lyrics “Ain't-That-America-Home-of-The-Free” (Pink Houses) in such an incorrect, flippant manner speaks volumes about your complete lack of understanding of the artist. You’re as tone deaf as Ronald Reagan was when he wanted to use the song for his campaign and Mellencamp basically told him “hell no”.
Have you even been to any of those cities in West Virginia? They're majority white by a high margin with Charleston having the highest percentage of non-whites and Morgantown the least.
Having spent a fair amount of time in all three cities over the years, it's a matter of socioeconomics and educational levels (and in some cases, union history) rather than race by a long shot that causes them to vote "blue."
There is definition of real power. Real power is ability to control election results.
The so called "Democrats" are deep state of national elite that has that type of power. It wants to continue the Pax Americana way, or, US, US uber alles. What you have now is their final fight to either maintain Pax Americana and world dominance or, step aside, let world split into three or so new world centers of power and lose its previous position, as the world one and only bully and vaccum for riches, robbed from the rest and sucked into the US.
Heaven help us if Trump doesn't win! I think he'll win. He never thought the virus was a hoax. There are no "red" states that are leaning toward Biden - you've gotta be KIDDING!!!
You are grossly misinformed; I suggest you stop abusing your brain with Washington Post and CNN and read the facts.
In the 2016 election, Trump barely won in my State.
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