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Sign language translators are worse than annoying. They are useless. Every TV has closed captioning. You can just turn captioning on your TV. Every deaf person uses close captioning, because TV shows and movies don't have a little window in them with a sign language translator for the deaf.
So we know that all deaf people use closed captioning for TV shows and movies. So there is NO NEED for sign language translators at all.
It is just politically correct virtue signaling. Nothing more. It is idiocy. There is an over-abundance of idiocy today, especially among the political classes.
"Get rid of those wheelchair ramps, they're ruining the building's aesthetic."
Ever considered there may be deaf/hearing impaired folks in the live audience, Rex? No closed captioning during an in-person conference.
That does not explain why the interpreter has to be televised for the entire broadcast. They could easily zoom in the camera so that the interpreter is not seen on the TV screen but is still available for the live audience.
It is televised out of political correctness/virtue signaling and nothing more.
That does not explain why the interpreter has to be televised for the entire broadcast. They could easily zoom in the camera so that the interpreter is not seen on the TV screen but is still available foer the live audience.
It is televised out of political correctness/virtue signaling and nothing more.
Very ignorant comment. May you never suffer from such an attitude if you ever find yourself with a disability (though perhaps you already have one?)
Anyone have a chance to watch Gov Inslee's translator the other night on (I believe CNN) the guy not only had strange facial behavior but he was bouncing up and down like he had just "go somewhere really bad."
An intelligent person might actually take the opportunity to learn ASL so they can understand.
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I do mind paying for them when closed captioning would be less distracting and do just fine.
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Originally Posted by Igor Blevin
Sign language translators are worse than annoying. They are useless. Every TV has closed captioning. You can just turn captioning on your TV. Every deaf person uses close captioning, because TV shows and movies don't have a little window in them with a sign language translator for the deaf.
Wow, the lack of intelligence, intolerance and bigotry is deafening.
Hopefully, you never lose your hearing or have a child who cannot hear, not that it matters, since you'd probably throw the infant into a dipsy-dumpster for being defective.
The Deaf are human, whether you like it or not.
And they are part of your community, whether you like it or not.
The Deaf to do not sit at home collecting Social Security Disability and watching re-runs of Judge Judy and COPS all day.
They work and pay taxes.
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Originally Posted by Igor Blevin
It is just politically correct virtue signaling.
It has zero to do with Political Correctness and everything to do with the fact that live events cannot be closed-captioned.
Only low-intelligence people don't understand that.
Very ignorant comment. May you never suffer from such an attitude if you ever find yourself with a disability (though perhaps you already have one?)
My hearing is so bad, that I can't buy hearing aids powerful enough to completely correct my hearing. I have had high frequency hearing loss since at least my Junior year in high school. I missed out on a lot of jokes and news from friends and family over a 25 year span, before I finally broke down and bought a set of hearing aids.
My last set cost $6,500. Insurance paid $1,000. I paid $5,500 out of pocket.
That is why I never bough a set of hearing aids until I was 40 years old. They are damn expensive and only in the last 15 years have they been included on my insurance at all.
I had to live on closed captioning for the last 15 years (because nobody had it 20 years ago) so I could understand movies and TV. I can't go to a live movie theater because I run the risk of missing too much dialogue.
My latest $6,500 oticon hearing aids are just amazing and I don't NEED closed captioning to watch movies and TV, but I still keep it on because accents can still mess me up, let alone when people are whisipering and such.
My hearing aid specialist says I am likely to be functionally deaf at some point and will need Kochlear hearing implants, assuming I can afford the extreme price they cost.
I am not stone deaf and I have enormous sympathy for those born deaf or who lost hearing in both ears. I would not wish that on my worst enemy, any more than I would wish blindnesson my worst enemy. But I know that EVERYBODY has closed captioning available on TV today, and there is simply no reason whatsoever to televise sign language on press conferences when you don't see it anywhere else.
You don't see a sign language interpreter in the press box with any sports announcers for football, baseball, basketball, hockey, soccer or any other televised sport.
You don't see any major national cable news or local TV news station have a sign language interpreter sitting next to the news anchors, sports anchor, entertainment achor, weather man and traffic girl.
I could go on and on with these examples, because the ONLY places you see a sign languange interpreter broadcast on TV are these political press conferences, CSPAN, and a little bit on PBS. I am sure there are a FEW others I am not aware of.
The fact as far as I know it is, the deaf have very few opportunities for sign language interpreters on cable and local TV broadcast, because I assume the broadcast providers know that the deaf are generally well served with closed captioning.
I am also well aware how inaccurate CC can be at times, and I am sorry the deaf can't hear ANYTHING so as to fill in those mistakes and gaffs, but CC does an exceptionally good job of getting the point across.
An intelligent person might actually take the opportunity to learn ASL so they can understand.
Wow, the lack of intelligence, intolerance and bigotry is deafening.
Hopefully, you never lose your hearing or have a child who cannot hear, not that it matters, since you'd probably throw the infant into a dipsy-dumpster for being defective.
The Deaf are human, whether you like it or not.
And they are part of your community, whether you like it or not.
The Deaf to do not sit at home collecting Social Security Disability and watching re-runs of Judge Judy and COPS all day.
They work and pay taxes.
It has zero to do with Political Correctness and everything to do with the fact that live events cannot be closed-captioned.
Only low-intelligence people don't understand that.
Maybe you all can understand this....
I will give you a day to remove that photo before I report it to the moderators.
Thank you in advance.
Due to my hearing impairment, I have closed captioning always on my TV. I have never noticed that I lack closed captioning on live events. That is news to me. I will be happy to check that out the next time I see a government press conference on Covid, or from the president, or from my governor and report back to you. I think you are wrong, but it could well be I just never noticed the lack of them.
Because I hate wearing hearing aids due to their often extreme discomfort, I usually go around the house without it and rely mostly on closed captioning for things I watch. I usually reserve my hearing aid use for only movies and really good TV shows. I think I would have noticed if there is no closed captioning for press conferneces, but since I can't recall either way, I will defer to your expertise for now, until the next opportunity I have to watch a live TV press conference by President Trump or Governor Newsom.
You sound adamant that you are right, so I should not be surprised if live press conferences lack captioning, but I really think I would have noticed that before, being extremely hearing impaired.
FWIW, I worked and paid taxes for a 35-year career before "sitting home" as a retiree. Before that I worked in restaurants during college. Before that, I mowed the neighbors lawns all during high school. Before that I took care of a neighbor's house and dogs whenever she was on frequent travel. So yes, I've been working since I was around 12 years old. Only started paying taxes when I was 18 though.
Thank you,
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You sound adamant that you are right, so I should not be surprised if live press conferences lack captioning, but I really think I would have noticed that before, being extremely hearing impaired.
I am also hard of hearing and I have indeed noticed a lack of captioning, or unintelligible captions, on live events including press conferences.
Moreover, an increasing number of people, particularly younger people, watch most of their news online, and livestreams aren't generally captioned.
I am also hard of hearing and I have indeed noticed a lack of captioning, or unintelligible captions, on live events including press conferences.
Moreover, an increasing number of people, particularly younger people, watch most of their news online, and livestreams aren't generally captioned.
That is a valid point that not eveybody watches on TV.
So what do the deaf do to livestream movies and TV shows if there is no closed captioning available?
I was under the assumption that the deaf would choose to use available technology that has captioning, since they can't use means that require hearing alone? How do the deaf livestream TV?
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