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Old 10-17-2009, 01:07 PM
 
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Why am I not surprised?
Best thing about Calipornia is its going to fall into the ocean.
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Old 10-17-2009, 01:45 PM
 
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It must be a real mind-f*ck to be rejected by ones parents like that.
Yeah... he's really a wonderful man but has a few problems with relationships. I can't imagine getting rejected like that by my own family.

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Your Mom was really excited to have a gay son?
She's kind of odd She has a lot of gay friends and always thought it would be nice to have a gay son.
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Old 10-18-2009, 07:18 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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So where does all this controversy and hatred against homosexuals and homosexuality come from, anyway? Is it because most straights find the sex acts that homosexuals may do to be grossly repugnant to their senses? Straights can't comprehend gay people wanting to do such acts and so end up fearing and/or hating them? Specifically, these grossly offensive sex acts (at least to some) could be oral anal sex and anal intercourse.

Personally, I think it's simply none of my business what willing, loving sex partners do in private and what they do is no basis for fearing or hating them.
All fine and well, I agree that what happens between consenting adults is nobodies business but their own, however, when the people who desire these acts take it all public,(many 'gay pride' parades are quite over the top) and rub it in peoples faces as a way to gain acceptance, that takes things into another realm. Many people fear that teaching 'tolerance' to school age children, as it pertains to homosexuals, would open the door to such activities happening in proximity to their kids. 'Sex education' delving into just such activities as you describe in your post above, in detail. Whether this is actually the case or not, (and I, personally, believe that it would happen in many places) it is a legitimate concern. The more radical segments of the gay rights movement has not done the gay community any favors with many of the activities they have promoted. Over the top parading,'kiss ins', 'in your face' displays of affection, all of this does tend to tarnish folks views of gays as wanting to cram their lifestyle down the throats of everyone else. I am NOT anti gay. However, things such as I have just described do tick me off. At the end of the day people notice the bad apples in the barrel, and tend to cast a more critical eye on the rest.
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Old 10-18-2009, 07:32 PM
 
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All fine and well, I agree that what happens between consenting adults is nobodies business but their own, however, when the people who desire these acts take it all public,(many 'gay pride' parades are quite over the top) and rub it in peoples faces as a way to gain acceptance, that takes things into another realm. Many people fear that teaching 'tolerance' to school age children, as it pertains to homosexuals, would open the door to such activities happening in proximity to their kids. 'Sex education' delving into just such activities as you describe in your post above, in detail. Whether this is actually the case or not, (and I, personally, believe that it would happen in many places) it is a legitimate concern. The more radical segments of the gay rights movement has not done the gay community any favors with many of the activities they have promoted. Over the top parading,'kiss ins', 'in your face' displays of affection, all of this does tend to tarnish folks views of gays as wanting to cram their lifestyle down the throats of everyone else. I am NOT anti gay. However, things such as I have just described do tick me off. At the end of the day people notice the bad apples in the barrel, and tend to cast a more critical eye on the rest.
public displays of affection are seen everyday from hetros, some people think that too is in your face and not something anyone should see. a gay parade where some might dress over the top should be viewed more as theater. there will always be people gay or straight that are in your face and extreme it should not reflect on the whole.
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Old 10-18-2009, 07:55 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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public displays of affection are seen everyday from hetros, some people think that too is in your face and not something anyone should see. a gay parade where some might dress over the top should be viewed more as theater. there will always be people gay or straight that are in your face and extreme it should not reflect on the whole.
I do believe that I said that. In a different way , perhaps, but the same thing nonetheless. The smelly fish is the one that gets noticed.Whatever agenda is being promoted, people are going to look at the worst examples from that bunch as being indicative of the whole, right or wrong, that's the way things are.
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Old 10-19-2009, 03:31 AM
 
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I do believe that I said that. In a different way , perhaps, but the same thing nonetheless. The smelly fish is the one that gets noticed.Whatever agenda is being promoted, people are going to look at the worst examples from that bunch as being indicative of the whole, right or wrong, that's the way things are.
the difference though is you said the things "tick you off" I just am not bothered by it.
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Old 10-19-2009, 05:08 AM
 
Location: Summerville, SC
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So where does all this controversy and hatred against homosexuals and homosexuality come from, anyway? Is it because most straights find the sex acts that homosexuals may do to be grossly repugnant to their senses? Straights can't comprehend gay people wanting to do such acts and so end up fearing and/or hating them? Specifically, these grossly offensive sex acts (at least to some) could be oral anal sex and anal intercourse.

Personally, I think it's simply none of my business what willing, loving sex partners do in private and what they do is no basis for fearing or hating them.
Most? No. Quite a few? Yup. The reason I support Harvey Milk Day is to bring awareness, and hopefully show kids that unlike their vastly closeminded parents believe, gay people are in fact people, and deserve to be treated as such.

I wonder though, how successful it will be. I was born and raised a Catholic, married several years ago in a Catholic church, and am soon to have a son of my own (just waiting for that circumcision thread to pop up again, LOL). I really feel like just trying my best to raise him to be a good person, because of the church's intolerance of the gay lifestyle. I wonder if many people are simply blinded by faith, and follow along with the agenda of whatever their church tells them.
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Old 10-19-2009, 09:22 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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the difference though is you said the things "tick you off" I just am not bothered by it.
I am as easily 'ticked off' at ANY in your face tactic promoting promoting ANY agenda. I did not intend to segregate any one group there, other than we are talking about a specific group on this thread.
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Old 10-19-2009, 09:42 AM
 
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I was born and raised a Catholic, married several years ago in a Catholic church, and am soon to have a son of my own (just waiting for that circumcision thread to pop up again, LOL). I really feel like just trying my best to raise him to be a good person, because of the church's intolerance of the gay lifestyle. I wonder if many people are simply blinded by faith, and follow along with the agenda of whatever their church tells them.
I wonder about this too. And I wonder about the agenda of some churches, the Catholic Church in particular. The official Catholic party line seems to be different than what goes on with some church officials behind—well, in the behind.
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Old 10-19-2009, 09:56 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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I wonder about this too. And I wonder about the agenda of some churches, the Catholic Church in particular. The official Catholic party line seems to be different than what goes on with some church officials behind—well, in the behind.
The same thing can be said about other 'religious' groups as well. Historically, Muslim countries were notorious for certain sexual practices within certain groups. Mullahs, Sultans, Sheiks etc, that maintained 'harems', 'consorts' and concubines, not always comprised entirely of females, or even of adults. Considering the position of Islam on sexual 'deviancy' this seems a bit hypocritical as well. These practices are still going on today, everywhere, just as it has for thousands of years, within the halls of power of ALL the major religions and ruling classes.
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