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'stop mugging people and saying others made you do it.'
Huckleberry-- That's it, in a nutshell! Thanks for saying what sorely needs to be said.
I agree 100%. This was the Native Americans land before Europeans mugged them, killed nearly all their Buffalo, took their land, put them on reservations and broke most of the treaties. The biggest mugging in Amercan history gave you a place to stay. Maybe these "muggers" are just trying to follow that historical lesson on how to lift yourself up by attacking others and taking what they have for yourself.
I didn't understand most of your post, (actually none of it made much sense) especially the parts about Liberals. Obviously you lump Liberals in the same category some people lump blacks into. You might try educating yourself that there are different degrees of Liberal and different degrees of Democrat!
Personally, I don't go for quotas and think they're a bunch of B.S! Also, I've NEVER heard any "liberal" I know state that there aren't enough black men as police officers. That's for the NAACP sweetie. They may be liberals, but they are the extreme of extreme of liberal and frankly they make me sick.
I don't like most entitlement programs except for people who need a leg up...they don't want a handout because they had another baby by a babydaddy they confuse with the postman! People need help every now and again but when it becomes a point of giving minorities help because someone might scream RACISM because they were denied, then the program loses my vote because I don't care if someone cries racism or not! If you don't qualify, you don't qualify....if you keep having babies to get more of the tax payers money, then you need to be turned down.
There should be limits on these things like food stamps, welfare, etc. If you don't go to school to better yourself, to try and get yourself financially stable, then OFF you go...off the program. Period. If that sounds "liberal" then you've really got no clue....sweetie.
The one program I think is decent, and due to the TAXPAYERS is Social Security Disability because you've worked into the system, paid into the system and for whatever reason you've become disabled. This is your money.......as for the rest, if you need help, you need help, but you don't get it indefinitely....get your act together or live on the street...makes no difference to me. Someone once said, "You can't help someone who won't help themselves." Should be a gov't motto!
I'm a Democrat, proud of it, but "Liberal" I am not...at least not in your sense of the word.......
Yes....remember all those white liberals in Kentucky and their vows to vote Republican before they vote for a black president. Indeed....there are different degrees of democrats and liberals. We cannot assume that all the racist are in the Republican party. I am not saying that this applies to you.....just pointing out how true what you said is.
The world would be a pretty boring place if everyone was the same. It seems to me like all the most interesting places in this country are very divers. Places like DC, LA, San Francisco, NY, Chicago New Orleans, Miami and so on. Hopefully some day there will be no real majority race and well have intermixed so much that almost everyone will have a family member of another race and we will all be a little more excepting of one another. Just my 2 cents
I'm going to say something here that is bound to p iss some people off, but there ya go. As a white female living with a white male, the discrimination *I* see is mostly against white MALES. It doesn't matter to me if my city is integrated....that's fine and dandy with me...but I am tired of people who are "minorities" claiming they are OWED all this gov't handout stuff just because they are minorities!
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What happened to white people? Some white people have problems, need help as well, yet they don't qualify for NEARLY as much gov't help as MINORITIES.
I'd happily live in any city that is racially diverse, just so long as EVERYONE pays their fair share and GETS their fair share. Everyone wants to be equal, so BECOME equal and stop the freaking whining.
I'm NOT going to pay for what white people did 200 years ago to black people. *I* didn't do it....just an example. Some people in the south think they're owed MONEY, money for Gawd's sake, because their ancestors were slaves.
Well, tough. It's history, get over it.
And back to the topic, my daughter's best friend is black, her mama and I are good friends, and I've got no beef with any race in particular....but when blacks (OR ANYONE) start ruining my city, THEN I get mad. Not at the entire race, but at those who ruin it!!!! I don't lump all blacks, Chinese, etc., into the same basket.
What makes me SO angry is that here in Charlotte our school system is going bust because people need the schools to babysit for them!!!!!!!!! That's just one of the programs we DON'T need! Cut that out instead of cutting teachers.
Integration is fine, but I expect everyone to uphold the law and not bring down my property value because they are just plain trash....white, black or purple!
Yeah, that was a ramble...I've got things on my mind! LOL
Some minorities Have learned how to " work the system".
The facts are that your ancestors LEFT EUROPE. Europe was ALL WHITE. Why did they leave an ALL WHITE PLACE and come to place inhabited by non-whites and labored with non-whites? I am simply going off your theory that Africanization ruin things. Late 1800 Europe....."hows that workin out for yah" as Sarah Palin would say. It certainly met your criteria of being all white. What went wrong that your ancestors felt they had to get the hell out....and {gasp} come to a nation full of Negroes....and Native Americans....lol.
Your theory holds up about as well as an impotent man without his viagra .
Wow, you are off the wall, aren't you? Has nothing to do with "theory". Just look at the numbers. The most dangerous cities in the U.S. (and largely worldwide) are the black ones. The safest? The non-black ones.
You talking the 1800's. The true africanization of America began way after that. I'm talking about places going majority black in recent, post industrial times.
News Flash, it's 2010.
You're missing a whole lot of other precedents from "way back" too... Like say Haiti. Haiti was the first black run "New World"
That said, they left because by that time it was clear that the U.S. had better opportunities, simple as that. And I suspect, if there was a better place than the U.S. today, people of similar mindset would leave the U.S. at present too, seeing as what the Economic Elite over on Wall Street have managed to do to us worker bees, LOL!
You need to quit screaming about whites and look directly at the black community itself.
Folks will stop saying, "Black areas suck", when black area have a history of not sucking. And only blacks can change that.
I mean seriously, the POTUS is currently a mullato. Wake up, the problem with africans is... well... africans. Or at least African Americans. I've heard blacks from other places say the same.
Problem is, the stats pretty much indicate africanization anywhere leads to decline.
Which is another point you miss. Yeah, whites came over here and took the place at gunpoint. That's how things were done in those days. But guess what? It's still the place that most people want to immigrate most too.
Ever seen any lines down at the airport of black folks, or any folks wanting to immigrate back to africa?
Wonder why that is? LOL!
Your own people are worse than the whites you're complaining about.
Slavery was still *LEGAL* in parts of Africa until 2007!
Wake up and stop listening to Rev. Wright.
I can only hope the rest of the country wakes up and rejects blanket africanization. Unfortunately it's probably not possible. The difference in reproduction rates of peoples from jungle environments vrs. colder environments pretty much assures, that same as africanized bees, the entire continent will become africanized, with all the attendant ills that go with it.
The world would be a pretty boring place if everyone was the same. It seems to me like all the most interesting places in this country are very divers. Places like DC, LA, San Francisco, NY, Chicago New Orleans, Miami and so on. Hopefully some day there will be no real majority race and well have intermixed so much that almost everyone will have a family member of another race and we will all be a little more excepting of one another. Just my 2 cents
All the cities you site basically suck. As do most inner city areas.
Go look at the crime rates.
People live more happily when they aren't crammed together in urbanization.
I agree 100%. This was the Native Americans land before Europeans mugged them, killed nearly all their Buffalo, took their land, put them on reservations and broke most of the treaties. The biggest mugging in Amercan history gave you a place to stay. Maybe these "muggers" are just trying to follow that historical lesson on how to lift yourself up by attacking others and taking what they have for yourself.
Well, by that theory we should just mug you folks again and get the chains out, right?
I mean if you're going to argue that strong arming is acceptable is said manner, might as well that whites hang on to what they stole. Makes perfect sense. You know, law of the jungle and all that, LOL!
Oh, but yeah, I forgot myself... blacks in africa enslave each other and also sell slaved to arabs and jews, who sell them to whites.
Just as an aside, I think there's something that many people don't understand. Not everyone who doesn't want to be around blacks (or any group for that matter) is neccessarily a Nazi style racist.
For some folks it's along the same lines as "don't like brocolli" or "prefer to sleep with women (or men) with certain physical/personality charactaristics".
In short it's about preferences. You can't argue someone into liking brocolli if they don't. No amount of logic about nutrition, calling them "bigoted against vegetables" or whatever is ever going to make then *like* brocolli. It's just in their wiring.
Consider a gay man. Point out all you want what genitalia are for, and that he should be interested in women... and well... he's still gonna aim for the wrong orifice, LOL!
So much of the resentment comes when you try to legislate that people eat brocolli or whatever. They hate that their freedom of choice is being stepped on.
The bottom line is that the peaceful solution if for everyone to have a place of their own. Heck, isn't that what geopolitical boundaries are about? Different groups of people banded together with a common idea of how to live?
So no matter what you do, some folks are always going to not want to be around some other folks, yes, based on surface (and some not so surface) traits. Just the way people are wired.
Heck, has happened to me many times in life. The sort of women I'm attracted to, the vast majority of men are attracted to. Think Victoria's Secret Model types. Well, guess what. Those women can have their choice of any guy they want, for the most part. And well, I just ain't the best pick of the litter. And even if I was, any given gal may not like my traits. She may want a skinny rock star looking guy and I'm muscle bound. She may want a macho muscle bound guy and I look like a skinny rockstar.
So suffice to say, I've been "discriminated against" many times in life like that. So should we legislate that Victoria's Secret Model looking women have to sleep with a certain quota of average guys like me? LOL!
When I was younger, of course it bothered me. Now at this age, I'm capable of looking from her view and accepting that hey, "people have differing tastes". Not much I can do about it.
On another level, I've been discriminated against in social and employment circles because I didn't come from wealth, or go to an Ivy League school.
So if you wanna fix discrimination, pass a law that Goldman Sachs needs to hire some of that didn't go to Harvard Business School or NYU or whatever. I know I could use a bazillion dollar bonus about now!
LOL!
Anyway, bottom line, I think Clarence Darrow said, "You can't argue a man into liking a glass of beer".
By the same token, you can't make folks like African American traits or culture, and to try is to simply make enemies of people that might otherwise be you ally, even it they don't want to "hang with you".
Another pair of points I'd like to make:
1) Just because someone says something about blacks (or other group0 doesn't make them a racist.
E.g. If I say, "AIDS among blacks is 800% the average, Handgun crime rate is 300% the average", that's simply a fact. Might indicate racism or not.
2) Just because a racist says it, doesn't make it racist or even false.
E.g. If David Duke, "AIDS among blacks is 800% the average, Handgun crime rate is 300% the average", that's simply a fact. The source is irrelevant to it's factual content, despite the old saw about, "consider the source". To scream "A racist said that!" is simply an ad hominem attack.
OP - Living in a "white majority city" is OK if you are white. Generally not so good if you are not.
Um.....I don't think so.
I don't understand why you say that it's not good to be a non-white living in a predominantly white city.
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Maybe these "muggers" are just trying to follow that historical lesson on how to lift yourself up by attacking others and taking what they have for yourself.
