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Could you supply a reputable source that backs up your statement:
I found one web site that compares incandescent/LED/CFL and they show 0 (zero) mercury emissions from incandescent bulbs.
They are only considering how much mercury is the bulb, the mercury emissions are lower with a CFL because you're using less electricity. Coal fired power plants account for about 1/3 to 1/2 of man made emissions within the US.
Here's a document that assumes worse case that every bulb is broken in the landfill and few other assumptions, total emissions for the CFL is 1.6mg while the incandescent is 5.5mg.
Its one of those topics thats just thrown out there to cause a feeding frenzy of negativity from the right.
If you want to see a lot more similar posts explore the political section its chock full of the same kind of incitefull topics.
Troll? without a doubt.
This is not a political issue. It's a common sense issue. "Right" and "left" mean nothing it this context, just as they mean nothing in many other topics where they are dragged in--just about the time the zombie mentality takes control and individual thought/reasoning goes out the window. I've grown to hate those words because I know they represent a breakdown in reasoning and a reversion to mob mentality. Consider an issue; make your own choice. Keep politics OUT.
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Originally Posted by plwhit
When it comes to green living we'd all be better off if we:
~ kept our vehicles for 10 years or more
~ took care of our appliances
~ had things repaired rather than thrown away and buying new
~ stop buying bottled water ($15 Billion spent last year in America)
Very true. Bottled water has been a joke since the beginning. A sucker is born every minute. And modern vehicles are very dependable--if taken care of they will last a very long time. Far longer than autos of the past.
Notice the way, in my prior posts, I tell you that I use CFL bulbs, I point out the benefits of doing so (saving significant money), and then I tell you that you should decide for yourself. Yes, in my opinion, there is a poor economic choice, but you must be free to make either choice. I don't bring up a bunch of political rubbish because this should not be a political issue. When it becomes political, the outcome tends to become an infringement of our personal liberty, just as it does with so many other issues. Keep politics out of our lives. Make your argument based on logic. Let each person decide for himself/herself whether the logic is sufficient motivation or not. It's the same thing with driving older cars, maintaining appliances, fixing rather than trash-canning, and stopping throwing you money down the toilet by buying bottled water. These can be shown to be logical, intelligent choices. Sooner or later, reason will prevail without arm-twisting for the vast majority of people, if they can remain free this "right" / "left" political BS mentality. It's unnecessary.
Just another ploy to get you yuppies to keep spending all of your money. Sort of like Starbucks, they got you guys all figured out. The biggest group that loves to "keep up".
...As opposed to this kind of lifestyle?
Me thinks the green folks are not the biggest suckers after all...
This is not a political issue. It's a common sense issue. "Right" and "left" mean nothing it this context, just as they mean nothing in many other topics where they are dragged in--just about the time the zombie mentality takes control and individual thought/reasoning goes out the window. I've grown to hate those words because I know they represent a breakdown in reasoning and a reversion to mob mentality. Consider an issue; make your own choice. Keep politics OUT.
Very true. Bottled water has been a joke since the beginning. A sucker is born every minute. And modern vehicles are very dependable--if taken care of they will last a very long time. Far longer than autos of the past.
Notice the way, in my prior posts, I tell you that I use CFL bulbs, I point out the benefits of doing so (saving significant money), and then I tell you that you should decide for yourself. Yes, in my opinion, there is a poor economic choice, but you must be free to make either choice. I don't bring up a bunch of political rubbish because this should not be a political issue. When it becomes political, the outcome tends to become an infringement of our personal liberty, just as it does with so many other issues. Keep politics out of our lives. Make your argument based on logic. Let each person decide for himself/herself whether the logic is sufficient motivation or not. It's the same thing with driving older cars, maintaining appliances, fixing rather than trash-canning, and stopping throwing you money down the toilet by buying bottled water. These can be shown to be logical, intelligent choices. Sooner or later, reason will prevail without arm-twisting for the vast majority of people, if they can remain free this "right" / "left" political BS mentality. It's unnecessary.
I have never gotten into the bottled water. Water is water, I can't taste the difference. Even in work, I use the tap, it is faster than the water cooler water.....
All tastes the same to me. I would not waste money on water in a bottle, seems silly.
I have never gotten into the bottled water. Water is water, I can't taste the difference. Even in work, I use the tap, it is faster than the water cooler water.....
All tastes the same to me. I would not waste money on water in a bottle, seems silly.
Depends on where you live. I'd agree the bottled water is a waste for most people but there is certainly a difference between the taste in waters. I've traveled the country and some of the tap waters I have tasted are horrible. I lived in town for years and the water supply came from dams in the mountains and it was excellent, only issue there was the chlorine which we filtered out with the carbon filter. While that water was good it is no comparison to the unfiltered water from our well.
WOW! What a bunch of mindless psycho babble!! I am entirely out of my league in this forum as I assumed we had a group of forward thinkers relying on innovation and common sense to get us through these troubled times. I am a "doer" and practice what I preach by living an "energy positive" lifestyle without the reliance of fossil fuels, allowing me the freedom to have no interest in affairs I cannot control. Instead I get a bunch of morons (and you know who you are) who can't focus on anything positive as it pertains to GREEN technology. Please, no more intellectual idiots!
First, if you cannot understand something, there are at least TWO reasons why, and you didn't even consider the second possibility Second, embracing an attitude of a "born again" ecstatic about his new church of holy locust (sorry, innovation) postulating that "energy positive" lifestyle is achievable through the right kind of innovations proves only your mindless desire to believe, regardless of common sense, the surrounding reality and its governing laws.
Now, let's think, 12,000 years of human innovations resulted in a mind boggling entanglement of life threatening issues, "luckily" if we'll innovate for little bit longer, let's say for 50 years more, we'll override 12000 years of human innovations, everyone will get his personal 10 acres ecoscape, no problems at all. What a remarkable religion you have. Be consistent, next time e. coli infested sprouts will make you sicks, forget about ER, treat yourself with little bit more sprouts to get well. Specific innovations don't matter, all human innovations regardless of their color, increase energy density of "civilization" and it cannot be otherwise. No biological cell can exist without input of external energy. The more complex a cell is, the more energy it requires to exist. The same is true about human "civilizations", all of them. You can't just half energy input and expect nothing to happen. The other thing that Western scientific ideology (Understand, Control, Dominate, Exploit) accelerated deleterious aspects of civilization to infinity and beyond.
Anyway, back to my point you missed, if humans hold civilization, innovations, domination, current social&economic order and Science so dear to their hearts, the only long term solution - "Warp Drive" and spreading human plague into space. You cannot "green power" all of the above, ain't gonna happen. Everything else is a temporary patch, and it's not clear for how long we can continue to patch things up. Psycho bubble, huh? Yet, the belief that power of positive thinking, Prozac & stuffing one's head deep down one's arse can change laws of physics and thermodynamics is not?
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