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We will just export the hazardous junk to places like Vietnam and other poor countries for them to deal with it. mean while talk about how environmentally clean we are.
To pretend like auto manufacturers, including Tesla, are ignoring the recylcing of the batteries, is just having your head in the sand. This article is from 3 years ago. The companies have been working with companies around the globe, and governments are also involved.
Lead batteries are only recycled because of strict regulations, not because of some huge profit-motive.
Gasoline isn't causing most of China's air quality problems. Industrial gases, coal and oil burning is and guess why that is?
Anyone?
They are busy manufacturing solar panels, lithium batteries and all kinds of "green" exports and have forsaken their own environment to do it.
They are making those nifty electronic gadgets that Open D says come to him in green packaging yet the very products themselves are causing major pollution problems resulting from their manufacture.
All this talk about a battery factory being green and no one can figure out how to recycle a plastic bag. The hypocrisy is everywhere.
Honestly, you're "contrarian" thinking goes well beyond being contrarian. the industry isn't ignoring what to do with batteries after roughly 10 yrs of use in an EV. and the plastic bag points you make, it just boggles my mind. again, reduce, reuse, recycle. if we use reusable bags, we've just greatly reduced our total bag consumption, we've greatly increased our total bag reuse, and the bags can still be recycled. if they're recycled at the same rate as plastic bags, we've still greatly reduced the # of bags we consume. but that doesn't mean our thinking just ends there.
as for EV batteries, no, they are not perfect. they are substantially better than today's alternatives though, and there are ways to reuse them, and recycle them. it may require some incentive from the government, just as lead batteries do, but people aren't ignoring the problem just because they support the transition to EVs.
Yeah, that is exactly why most of the environmental problems we have today in this county exist. Put "Green" in the topic and suddenly everyone gets giddy and dares not to ask any questions, just go along with the group.
you keep making this accusation. what proof do you have that people who support greener than existing technology "dares not to ask any questions"?
Little known because other than the 3 people who bought one last year no one has seen one since.
The Volt is not an electric car and it is hardly a typical car design that can be used for much more than putting a Tesla sticker on it and hoping no one notices.
The Volt isn't practical and not affordable for most people either. Price a Volt and see what you get for the money, zip. Without subsidies they'd never sell one. GM got bailed out and still relies on what, gasoline fueled vehicles. So why did GM get bailed out if we turn around and then create Tesla? Hoping that GM gets some message?
What was the plan? There wasn't one. For all that we got the Volt? For the money shoveled into Tesla we couldn't have added that to the GM free lunch and require them to advance the technologies owned by the American people to do better. Instead we propped up a dinosaur of a car company that will repeat the mistakes of it's past. Wait, it already did that.
The Volt. Better hurry, there is a sale on and you might not get one.
we didn't create Tesla...Tesla took advantage of a government program for a loan, which they paid back, with interest. there's not a mass market vehicle yet, but they are getting closer and closer.
as for the volt, they sold many thousand more than "3".
Texas is in many ways a strong contender, and Austin is all a-twitter about the possibility of snagging another high visibility tech business, although finding that much cheap land would almost certain require the factory to be at some distance from the city. And Texas has a severe handicap in this race... state law prohibits Tesla from selling their cars in the state, because Tesla doesn't franchise its dealerships, and Texas doesn't allow manufacturers to sell direct. For this reason I feel Texas is included simply for the competitive fight they'll provide.
don't discount the fact that Tesla could use this plant as a negotiating tool with Texas state government to change the laws and allow Tesla to sell directly as part of the deal to build their plant there. But I agree that Nevada makes the most sense due to land, rail, and proximty.
don't discount the fact that Tesla could use this plant as a negotiating tool with Texas state government to change the laws and allow Tesla to sell directly as part of the deal to build their plant there. But I agree that Nevada makes the most sense due to land, rail, and proximty.
Yes, indeed... Texas and Arizona both are bidding to get the plant, but have to face this issue...
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Texas, Arizona Beg Tesla To Build Factories While Banning It From Selling Cars
Tesla's response has been understandably cool.
“The issue of where we do business is in some ways inextricably linked to where we sell our cars,” Diarmuid O’Connell, Tesla’s vice president for business development, told Bloomberg earlier this month. “If Texas wants to reconsider its position on Tesla selling directly in Texas, it certainly couldn’t hurt.”
Policy makers in both states have been trying to appease Tesla, with little luck so far. Republican Governor Rick Perry supported a bill last year that would have let companies making 100-percent electric cars sell them directly to customers. That bill died in the Texas House of Representatives.
Villaba said he’d propose a bill in 2015 that would let electric-car companies sell 5,000 cars before they’re subject to state franchise rules, according to the Texas Tribune.
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