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Old 02-28-2017, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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I have an idea. How about charging your car at your home. It's a pretty good bet that people charging their cars at a mall parking lot are not on a cross country trip. How many times do we have to learn that giving away free stuff is a bad idea.
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Old 02-28-2017, 03:36 PM
 
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I have an idea. How about charging your car at your home. It's a pretty good bet that people charging their cars at a mall parking lot are not on a cross country trip. How many times do we have to learn that giving away free stuff is a bad idea.
Not everyone can charge at home. If they live in a condo, the association may not allow it.
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Old 02-28-2017, 03:58 PM
 
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@Gregw, because some folks invest with clean air in mind . Rarely have I gotten behind an e-charge car and smelt fumes .
My car gets from a to b..Same as yours for less
Ev stations are on trial basis in select areas... With our east coast arrogant drivers...I don't see the stations lasting... Most here shoot first so no questions are asked later.
Where does the electric come from and how is it generated? If you think electric cars are "green" you need to learn how electricity is generated.
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Old 02-28-2017, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Not everyone can charge at home. If they live in a condo, the association may not allow it.
Ok, but whose problem is that? Should have thought of it before buying.
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Old 02-28-2017, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Where does the electric come from and how is it generated? If you think electric cars are "green" you need to learn how electricity is generated.
This number is easily measurable but I haven't seen it anywhere. My gut tells me if we haven't seen it yet it probably does not help the cause.
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Old 02-28-2017, 09:40 PM
 
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Not everyone can charge at home. If they live in a condo, the association may not allow it.
Most condo association usual will have no issues with a owner requesting permission to install an EV charging station.

As a partner in a rental company, we routinely will approve EV charging stations for renters. The catch is (and I'm sure the condo association is the same) the tenant has to pay the cost of the installation, permits, utility co meter cost, and the monthly electricity bill. That is usually when people start to get all shaking and have a seizure.

Since we do not pay for gasoline for tenants, we are not going to pay for the electricity for those with EVs.
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Old 03-01-2017, 06:10 AM
 
Location: DC
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This number is easily measurable but I haven't seen it anywhere. My gut tells me if we haven't seen it yet it probably does not help the cause.
If 100% of the electricity used to charge your car comes from coal fired power plants, the system is still cleaner than using an internal combustion engine. Cars are filthy.
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Old 03-01-2017, 06:13 AM
 
Location: DC
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Most condo association usual will have no issues with a owner requesting permission to install an EV charging station.

As a partner in a rental company, we routinely will approve EV charging stations for renters. The catch is (and I'm sure the condo association is the same) the tenant has to pay the cost of the installation, permits, utility co meter cost, and the monthly electricity bill. That is usually when people start to get all shaking and have a seizure.

Since we do not pay for gasoline for tenants, we are not going to pay for the electricity for those with EVs.
I suggest you will eventually add charging stations as an amenity. You may still bill the tenant for electricity used, but that's a pretty small cost. The first cost of the installation plus the cost of a separate utility account is what is causing the problem today.
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Old 03-01-2017, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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If 100% of the electricity used to charge your car comes from coal fired power plants, the system is still cleaner than using an internal combustion engine. Cars are filthy.
You are just saying it. Where is the study? I don't dispute it but I want to see numbers.
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Old 03-01-2017, 08:06 AM
 
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You are just saying it. Where is the study? I don't dispute it but I want to see numbers.
http://www.afdc.energy.gov/uploads/p...ons_impact.pdf
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