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If you look at the data used for this ranking, only one (fatalities) is a stat that can be used to accurately compare across state lines.
The rest are data points from law enforcement.
These differences could simply be that laws are enforced (tickets are given out) at a higher rate here than in other states, regardless of any other factors that may or may not reflect how people drive, or how safe it is to drive in general.
Many "low tax" states do this because handing out tickets generates revenue. It's basically a hidden tax. Notice how many low ranking states in this article are in the South?
If people in two different states break the same law at the same rate, but one state hands out more tickets, does that state really have "worse" drivers? Or just more cops handing out tickets?
Does a high rate of law breakers even mean driving is less safe?
Let's ignore the statistical evidence and just form our own conclusions. Or better just argue that the results are unfairly skewed and assume all that data is meaningless. Reminds me of the recent bitching about school rankings.
Rather than fixing the problem, let's just complain about how the data is completely wrong.
What makes your response puzzling is even you wrote previously in this thread (as others) that cops aren't issuing enough citations in this area. They aren't ticking slow left-lane-drivers or 99% of speeders. Yet you're trying to claim that "well, SC just issues more tickets".
Since you like broad assumptions, I'm going to throw mine in:
The Southern states are living up to their true "mine" mentally. My road, my car, my rules. I can go as fast as I want and if you don't like it leave or I'll run you over.
And the reward for that? You're the best at killing, hurting or inflecting damage on your fellow citizens and their property.
Let's ignore the statistical evidence and just form our own conclusions. Or better just argue that the results are unfairly skewed and assume all that data is meaningless. Reminds me of the recent bitching about school rankings.
Rather than fixing the problem, let's just complain about how the data is completely wrong.
What makes your response puzzling is even you wrote previously in this thread (as others) that cops aren't issuing enough citations in this area. They aren't ticking slow left-lane-drivers or 99% of speeders. Yet you're trying to claim that "well, SC just issues more tickets".
Since you like broad assumptions, I'm going to throw mine in:
The Southern states are living up to their true "mine" mentally. My road, my car, my rules. I can go as fast as I want and if you don't like it leave or I'll run you over.
And the reward for that? You're the best at killing, hurting or inflecting damage on your fellow citizens and their property.
Logic and reading comprehension aren't your strong suits.
The data is completely right. It's the conclusion (the premise of the article) that is logically suspect. Can you not follow what I was saying?
How do the number of tickets issued in a state necessarily reflect how people are driving? Is their a causal or just corollary relationship between the two? Is there any relationship at all? Can the corollary relationship be explained by other factors, such as police simply handing out more tickets?
The answer is logically, yes.
A more accurate set of data points would be things like accidents, insurance claims, deaths, injuries, etc.
And lets say for argument sake that there are more of those things here. Does that automatically mean it's because of the drivers?
What about road repair, road conditions, weather, etc. There are other factors involved in wrecks.
Reread what I wrote, because you're not following the actual words as written.
Have you ever lived out West? Or in a large metro area? People in these places drive WAY faster than they do here.
And boom, here ya go. SC ranks third in handing out tickets per capita:
Top 10 States for Speeding Tickets | U.S. News Best Cars
"Because they count speeders by the number of speeding tickets issued, we think it’s more like the 10 states with the busiest traffic police. After all, are there more fast drivers where the police issue a lot of tickets, or where they issue very few? Maybe these are just the top 10 states where speeders are likely to get caught."
The New Zealand Transport Agency launched a new campaign on January 5, highlighting the dangers of speeding, even for those who consider themselves ‘good drivers’.
Everyone thinks they are a good driver and do things correctly. If you are driving more slowly than they are, you're too slow and should get out of their way. If you are driving faster than they are, you are a maniac and need to slow down.
The arrogance some people display about their own driving, and the condemnation they seem to feel about the way others drive, is really humorous to observe.
Everyone thinks they are a good driver and do things correctly. If you are driving more slowly than they are, you're too slow and should get out of their way. If you are driving faster than they are, you are a maniac and need to slow down.
The arrogance some people display about their own driving, and the condemnation they seem to feel about the way others drive, is really humorous to observe.
So, do you think of yourself as a bad driver?
I mean, do you think people go out there on the roads and say to themselves, "I am going to drive like an idiot today."
Of course not.
It seems like the most arrogant post on this thread so far is yours. The post that claims moral superiority. The post that finds amusement in other people's "ignorance."
I mean, do you think people go out there on the roads and say to themselves, "I am going to drive like an idiot today."
Of course not.
It seems like the most arrogant post on this thread so far is yours. The post that claims moral superiority. The post that finds amusement in other people's "ignorance."
I'm not claiming moral superiority. And of course people don't intend to drive like idiots. But I do think it's funny how we (myself included) tend to judge people going slower than us to be too slow, and those going faster than us to be driving too fast. It makes us feel better about ourselves, I suppose.
The arrogance comment is directed at those who, in addition to using themselves as the model for appropriate driving, also seem to feel that it is their job to police everyone else's driving. You know, the person who can't resist the temptation to criticize everyone else and feel that it is his or her obligation to enlighten the rest of us. That, Art, is the arrogance to which I am referring. And it seems to be quite prevalent in this thread, don't you think?
I'm not claiming moral superiority. And of course people don't intend to drive like idiots. But I do think it's funny how we (myself included) tend to judge people going slower than us to be too slow, and those going faster than us to be driving too fast. It makes us feel better about ourselves, I suppose.
The arrogance comment is directed at those who, in addition to using themselves as the model for appropriate driving, also seem to feel that it is their job to police everyone else's driving. You know, the person who can't resist the temptation to criticize everyone else and feel that it is his or her obligation to enlighten the rest of us. That, Art, is the arrogance to which I am referring. And it seems to be quite prevalent in this thread, don't you think?
Of course you claimed moral superiority. I can't see any other way of reading your post, your "amusement."
I do take it as a compliment, though, your using of the word "arrogance."
There aren't many successful people out there who couldn't be labeled that way. It's a label usually used for people you tend to disagree with, while people who agree with you use terms like "confident" or "knowledgable."
Take the President of the United States, for example.
Now if could figure out a way to actually police slow drivers, that would be great.
Of course you claimed moral superiority. I can't see any other way of reading your post, your "amusement."
I do take it as a compliment, though, your using of the word "arrogance."
There aren't many successful people out there who couldn't be labeled that way. It's a label usually used for people you tend to disagree with, while people who agree with you use terms like "confident" or "knowledgable."
Take the President of the United States, for example.
LOL! You're funny, Art.
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Ignorance is no excuse.
