New thread for HAND gun enthusiasts (pistols, handguns, loaded, model)

[Roaddog]

Originally Posted by Eastern Roamer

I was thinking of looking into reloading. How much investment is required?

I shoot a .38 special for fun and carry a Sig Sauer P239 in .40 cal. Ammo isn't cheap. I actually bought that expensive, ridiculous, Extreme Shock garbage, but I don't even keep it in the gun. I went with Federal Hyda-shok in 165 grain. And the Sig all but disappears in my Blade-Tech tuckable IWB holster.

The cost will vary by the brand and type of reloading equipment you buy, you can get starter kit with most of what you need. Search reloading for a lot of advise and equipment.

[Hungry For Cheese]

I love hand guns. I've never shot a rifle or shotgun though...so....hopefully I wont love those...because love=money.

Anyways I just picked up the XD9 from Springfield Armory...it is like the Glock, but better. **** all the Glock guys off with that one...

Anyways, I am looking to purchase a 22LR pistol.
Turners has a Walther P22 on sale and a SIG Mosquito.
I really love the Sig P220 and 226, but they are pricey.
For the 22 I think I am going to get the Walther.
I am have to wait 30 more days to purchase another handgun due to California laws.

I plan on using Federal Hydra-Shok 124grain JHP for home protection and have 400rounds of WWB for the range when I pick it up next Saturday.
Darn 10 day waiting period. I saw it and it is beautiful.

[jufrbo]

Right now I own a heritage .22 pistol I picked up at a show for 150 bones. It's a fun little gun. I plan on picking up a .357 magnum in the near future.

[jufrbo]

Originally Posted by Hungry For Cheese

Darn 10 day waiting period.

I pity you for living in California, I can have whatever gun I want in a matter of minutes, at our bi-monthly gunshows.

[Prince of Lombards]

I used to have handguns, but I live in CA so i ditched them before the government can bust into my home and take them.

[Eastern Roamer]

I am looking to purchase a 22LR pistol

There's a company that makes Glock conversion kits with a slide & barrel to make any gun shoot .22LR. Maybe you can find one your XD9. It will be cheaper than buying a new gun.

[jdavid93225]

Originally Posted by Eastern Roamer

I was thinking of looking into reloading. How much investment is required?

Well, this is really a tough question to answer. In theory, you don't really need to spend very much, and you can get everything you need for less than $200. Required equipment are a press, dies in the caliber of your choice, powder scale, various hand tools for making adjustments, a reloading handbook or guide, and reloading components. I would also add that a vernier caliper should be required to take measurements to ensure the proper sizing of your reloads (neck diameter, overall cartridge length, etc.). There are many other things you will probably want which will drive the prices up, usually quite significantly.

Presses run anywhere from $50 or so up to well over $1000, depending on the type of press and the features it has. Progressive presses allow you to load a complete round with each pull of the handle, because they have several stages being done with each pull.

For strictly handgun ammo, Dillon precision probably has the cheapest progressive press (Square Deal B), but it uses proprietary dies, so I wouldn't recommend it. Their RL 550 B is the press I have, and I love it. It costs a little bit more, but will reload both rifle and pistol ammo. They also have a lifetime guarantee on their products, and will replace broken parts free of charge for the lifetime of the unit.

RCBS is another popular brand, and they have both Single stage and progressive units. Same goes for Lee. All of these units use standard (7/8") dies, so you don't have to stick to only their products.

Other accessories you might want to consider would be a tumbler for cleaning used brass, a media separator for removing the cleaning media after tumbling, a primer shaker (for getting your primers all right side up), or a priming tool (if using a single stage press), a bullet puller in case you mess up your loads, storage boxes for your reloaded ammo, and so on. A bench to put everything on is nice to have, too.

[Magnum Mike]

Originally Posted by Eastern Roamer

I was thinking of looking into reloading. How much investment is required?

I shoot a .38 special for fun and carry a Sig Sauer P239 in .40 cal. Ammo isn't cheap. I actually bought that expensive, ridiculous, Extreme Shock garbage, but I don't even keep it in the gun. I went with Federal Hyda-shok in 165 grain. And the Sig all but disappears in my Blade-Tech tuckable IWB holster.

If you shoot a lot of ammo, the money you'll save by reloading will pay for the reloading gear.

I'd start out with RCBS, they do make very good reloading components, and like JDavid said, a single stage press and dies, along with other essential accessories, like a caliper, scale, case mouth deburring tool, trimmer, primer pocket cleaner, and reloading manual will typically be between $200 and $300.
Dillon makes a really good electronic scale it's called the Terminator-D and it's under a $100. There are so many combinations of equipment you can get, it all depends on your style of shooting, and like I said, all of the equipment will pay for itself in no time.

[junkman18]

I Thought you might appreciate this

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control and from 1929 to 1953, about

20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.
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In 1911, Turkey established gun control and from 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million
Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of
13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were
rounded up and exterminated.
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China established gun control in 1935 and from 1948 to 1952, 20 million political

dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Guatemala established gun control in 1964 and from 1964 to 1981, 100,000
Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Uganda established gun control in 1970 and from 1971 to 1979, 300,000
Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Cambodia established gun control in 1956 and from 1975 to 1977, one million
educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.
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Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century
because of gun control: 56 million.
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It has now been 2 years since gun owners in Australia were forced by new

law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own
government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million
dollars. The first year results are now in:

List of 7 items: Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent
Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent Australia-wide, armed
robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!

In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300
percent. Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the
criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns!

While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in
armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past
12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.

There has also been a dramatic increase in break- ins and assaults of the
ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety
has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in
successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The Australian experience

and the other historical facts above prove it.

You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians
disseminating this information.

Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes,
gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.

Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!

The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind
them of this history lesson.

With guns, we are 'citizens'.

Without them, we are 'subjects'.

During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they
knew most Americans were ARMED!

If you value your freedom, Please spread this anti-gun control message
to all of your friends.



GUN CONTROL IS NOT ABOUT GUNS, IT’S ABOUT CONTROL.

[Magnum Mike]

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GUN CONTROL IS NOT ABOUT GUNS, IT’S ABOUT CONTROL.

Good post JunkMan. Criminal control makes a lot more sense than Gun Control. I also say "Gun Control is a STEADY AIM".