Opinions on how Black People are Treated in Hawaii (Pearl City: fit in, school)

[green_mariner]

Originally Posted by athene111

Did you ever think that it may not be due to skin color but because of the way you were dressed? People treat you different if you are dressed nicely and look respectable rather than if you have saggy pants, tattoes showing etc.

It also has to do with the high crime rate among the African American community. A high % of the incarcerated population is black, whatever the reason maybe- historical wrongs, poverty, illiteracy. But it makes other people judge you differently and act suspicious than if you were from a community that is better on those things. The chinese are not white either - why are they not treated the same way? I live in a diverse neighborhood and my black neighbor was arrested for drug possession. There was shooting in the house of another black neighbor. Nothing happened with the other neighbors who were korean, chinese and hispanics. Natually when people see these high crime rates, they start looking at a particular community differently. It defintely does not have to do with your skin or racism.

It shouldn't matter. Taking the individual rather than the group should be a first.

[Waianaegirl]

JOIM
The thing is that everyone has a different experience, no matter what the color of their skin is. I lived in Oahu for 6 years and I was treated like crap by the Hawaiians for the sole purpose of being white. There are not many black people living there, so I do not know how they are treated, but I do know in some areas, whites are not treated well at all. I didn't like the Big Island ( I only visited, didn't live there), but then again, you can't know what life is like, unless you live there. Some people are nice, and treat everyone with respect, others are just nasty. Your experience will be completley different than mine. I guess you won't know until you try, right?

[nubia66]

Originally Posted by dadtoscano

Hopefully, you were replying to another post and accidentally quoted mine, since I clearly have a problem with racism. If you weren't, I'd like to point out that I was angry about the racist post that I quoted and replied to.

Yes I was replying to the one that you responded to. My string connection was incorrect.

[nubia66]

Originally Posted by athene111

Did you ever think that it may not be due to skin color but because of the way you were dressed? People treat you different if you are dressed nicely and look respectable rather than if you have saggy pants, tattoes showing etc.

It also has to do with the high crime rate among the African American community. A high % of the incarcerated population is black, whatever the reason maybe- historical wrongs, poverty, illiteracy. But it makes other people judge you differently and act suspicious than if you were from a community that is better on those things. The chinese are not white either - why are they not treated the same way? I live in a diverse neighborhood and my black neighbor was arrested for drug possession. There was shooting in the house of another black neighbor. Nothing happened with the other neighbors who were korean, chinese and hispanics. Natually when people see these high crime rates, they start looking at a particular community differently. It defintely does not have to do with your skin or racism.

I am an intelligent black woman running my own business and let me tell you for a fact that race is the issue. I don't wear baggy jeans or dress like what America calls a "thug". I get clients for my IT business nationwide via virtual connections, which means they don't see me until I show up to honor the contract. When I am on the phone, they love me, the love my qualifications and hire my firm. But unfortunately most of these companies cancel the contract after I walk in the door revealing my blackness. I didn't get arrested, or do anything negative. I have already proved that I was qualified and they allowed my color negate my worth. I hear and read constantly about how white people have killed, left, or mistreated their family for money and things.... Almost everytime you hear one of those crazy crimes or mass murderers, they are WHITe... But guess what???? I have not decided that all white people are greedy, money hungry, mass murderers. So how dare you or anyone else decide that ALL BLACKS are bad or negative based on what the media portrays. I give each person the benefit of the doubt regardless of the statistics. And when I decide that you are a no good person, it is because you really are a no good person, not because you are White, or Asian, anything esle. So you sleep well with your justification for mistreatment and unfairness. Hug that belief well. But how would you feel if you were negated as a positive citizen based on the negative statistics for your race and nothing more......
Watch that glass house that you are throwing stones from.

[Pancho & Zapata]

Originally Posted by NVplumber

Seems to me that we are all wasting a lot of energy worrying about our color ( or lack thereof) that could be better expended getting a pig in the ground, a fire going and the ice chests loaded up. Some kalua pork, grilled ono and mahi and a few cold ones sounds like da universal language! Be exellent to each other....party on dudes! Aloha!

Sounds good to me! But as a Mexican, I have a feeling I am going to miss some of the food, as Oahu doesn't seem to have very much authentic Mexican. Do you mind if we marinade the Pig in Achiote-Sour Orange Paste... and serve it with some pickled Red Onions & some roasted Habanero salsa for a variation?

[NVplumber]

Originally Posted by Pancho & Zapata

Sounds good to me! But as a Mexican, I have a feeling I am going to miss some of the food, as Oahu doesn't seem to have very much authentic Mexican. Do you mind if we marinade the Pig in Achiote-Sour Orange Paste... and serve it with some pickled Red Onions & some roasted Habanero salsa for a variation?

Sounds wayyy Bueno to me amigo! Something I'm going to miss about Nv is being able to run up the mountain and grab some Mountain Mahogany to use on my grill. Ahh the sweet tangy smokey smell of Mahogany grilled steak! Might maybe we need to stock up on some of these culinary delights before the big move. Good food leads to good fellowship aye!? Preparing food such as we are disscusing could even turn into a way to make a living. Whata ya think ...Pancho and Zapatas Moutain Mahogany grilled Carne Assada with a side of Achiote pork served with your choice of corn or flour tortilla fresh jalepeno and for a little Island flavor ...garlic cilantro crusted grilled ono appetizer....Ya never know. Aloha bro!

[Pancho & Zapata]

Originally Posted by NVplumber

Sounds wayyy Bueno to me amigo! Something I'm going to miss about Nv is being able to run up the mountain and grab some Mountain Mahogany to use on my grill. Ahh the sweet tangy smokey smell of Mahogany grilled steak! Might maybe we need to stock up on some of these culinary delights before the big move. Good food leads to good fellowship aye!? Preparing food such as we are disscusing could even turn into a way to make a living. Whata ya think ...Pancho and Zapatas Moutain Mahogany grilled Carne Assada with a side of Achiote pork served with your choice of corn or flour tortilla fresh jalepeno and for a little Island flavor ...garlic cilantro crusted grilled ono appetizer....Ya never know. Aloha bro!

Sounds good to me... we should setup at a Farmers Market & see if it flies.

[Sweetbeet]

If you guys do this, just tell me when & where, & I'll be your first customer! Yummm!

[Pancho & Zapata]

How boutz a cheer for Hawaii's most famous Black man, product of Punahou Prep School... and the next president of the United States of America

[cynmkolohe]

Indecision 2008 - West Virginia | The Daily Show | Comedy Central (watch at least to the two minute mark...these interview clips are somewhat shocking to me)

My personal opinion here...but I think that everyone should see this as they evaluate exactly why Clinton won by such large numbers in WVA and KY...

The national news coverage I've seen have recently started referring to "Appalachian white working-class voters" as a distinct group.

Yes, I know that it is not right to stereotype all residents of these states, and I certainly do not. But I grew up in these areas. I am glad to see someone address the issue honestly--even if it is with Jon Stuart's cynicism.

Another reason why I choose--and am glad--to live in Hawaii!

For balance, here is a link to an article with another take on the issue: The Charleston Gazette - Op-Ed Commentaries - Ron Eller*