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Sad to say, but the best chances to actually get things going in hawaii is for NO stimulus to pass.
Or, actually have a plan. The Sept 1 reopening will be moot if people can't get test results within 72 hours or have a partnership with a testing chain.
The State is squandering an opportunity to test residents on arrival to avoid quarantine to not only let its residents travel - but also look at the numbers and see if asymptomatic people are arriving.
Or, actually have a plan. The Sept 1 reopening will be moot if people can't get test results within 72 hours or have a partnership with a testing chain.
The State is squandering an opportunity to test residents on arrival to avoid quarantine to not only let its residents travel - but also look at the numbers and see if asymptomatic people are arriving.
I get your desire to do these things, and largely agree with you that they would be beneficial. But, it seems like it is living in some kind of fantasy land to think it could just happen if it werent for the inept governer, as inept as he might be.
Where is he supposed to make these test appear out of thin air? It's not like other states have the capacity to test all incoming people either. PCR tests every where are taking at least 7-10 days to get results. How is Ige, or any governer, supposed to change that?
If you want to find a place to blame for lack of testing, it seems it should be directed at the national level. Why haven't we had Manhattan project style response at all federal labs to get massive testing figured out. Why isn't there nation wide contact tracing program in place?
I get your desire to do these things, and largely agree with you that they would be beneficial. But, it seems like it is living in some kind of fantasy land to think it could just happen if it werent for the inept governer, as inept as he might be.
Why can't it happen?
I've signed an emergency order that allows residents in the State of Hawaii to end quarantine upon arrival to the State once results of a negative Covid test is received that has occurred at a testing site within the State. Here is a list of testing locations by islands...blah blah blah
See, I've even written the order for him.
We have capacity for 5,000 tests a day (about to go up with pooling) with about 600 residents arriving per day. We can test them.
I've signed an emergency order that allows residents in the State of Hawaii to end quarantine upon arrival to the State once results of a negative Covid test is received that has occurred at a testing site within the State. Here is a list of testing locations by islands...blah blah blah
See, I've even written the order for him.
We have capacity for 5,000 tests a day (about to go up with pooling) with about 600 residents arriving per day. We can test them.
From what have read, there is very little in-state testing capability, and that is reserved for critical cases. Most test get sent to our of state labs, and are taking at least 10 days, often longer to get results back. By that time most people would have finished their quarantine or close to it. I don't see how quarantining 10-12 days vs. 14 days is going to change anything. And, that does nothing to address the much larger scale testing that would be required to open up to tourists, the testing capability simply isn't there regardless of what the governer here does.
Curious why you continuously lambast the state leadership (perhaps deserved), but seem to give the federal level, where the real problems need to be resolved a pass on their utterly inadequate response? Governers do not have DPA powers, nor control over federal funded research labs, etc. That is the only way to enable large scale test and tracing programs.
Interesting, that is newer and contradicts the articles I had seen recently. Has the turn around time improved, or is that still 7-10 days? It seems that is the critical piece.
Has the turn around time improved, or is that still 7-10 days? It seems that is the critical piece.
During a state Senate committee on COVID-19 meeting, DOH State Laboratories Administrator Dr. Edward Desmond said the five laboratories across the state that collect and process specimens from Hawaii patients can now turn out results within 24 hours.
During a state Senate committee on COVID-19 meeting, DOH State Laboratories Administrator Dr. Edward Desmond said the five laboratories across the state that collect and process specimens from Hawaii patients can now turn out results within 24 hours.
That article is from April, when we were probably only doing a couple hundred test a day? Not sure if the labs here have the capability to scale up an order of magnitude or more.
That article is from April, when we were probably only doing a couple hundred test a day? Not sure if the labs here have the capability to scale up an order of magnitude or more.
If you have data to suggest otherwise, I'd love to see it. I've seen no reports that in the State of Hawaii teats are delayed in any meaningful way. We have 4 labs in the State that can do testing.
We have capability for 5,000 tests a day - which will double soon. We've never tested more than 2,300 on any given day.
Given cases are in the order of 20-40 a day, it would be embarrassing if tests took a week to process.
But this is an even if - even if it took a week to get a result, which I find highly unlikely - that cuts quarantine down by a week - AND, provide the State data on asymptomatic carriers.
I get your desire to do these things, and largely agree with you that they would be beneficial. But, it seems like it is living in some kind of fantasy land to think it could just happen if it werent for the inept governer, as inept as he might be.
Where is he supposed to make these test appear out of thin air? It's not like other states have the capacity to test all incoming people either. PCR tests every where are taking at least 7-10 days to get results. How is Ige, or any governer, supposed to change that?
If you want to find a place to blame for lack of testing, it seems it should be directed at the national level. Why haven't we had Manhattan project style response at all federal labs to get massive testing figured out. Why isn't there nation wide contact tracing program in place?
The problem is that people are already coming and breaking the quarantine. At least giving people the option of jumping through the hoops to get tested before coming offers them a means to come in a manner that's safer for everyone.
Opening schools instead of tourism makes no sense since it greatly increases covid risk with little or no benefit to the state. What is the point of rushing the fall semester when it means the parent and children are broke and potentially homeless?
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