Russian Navy Submarine Thread. (WWII, USSR, tanks, German)
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This is the video from the History Channel of the show that had ranked Submarines around the world, and the Russian Sub The Typhoon Sub which is THE largest submarine(also largest nuclear powered subamrine) in the world was ranked 8th. Which I think it should've been ranked high than that;
This Submarine was designed for End Of Days... It carries Nuclear ICBM's calculated in megatons of destructive power. This thing can oblitarate the entire civilized world at the press of the button. Its interior is luxurious crew gets to have sauna, swimming pools, even cinema rooms. Its designed so you can feel at home while undersea for months.
Also, when it comes to the size of this sub whenever you see a Typhoon surface it's like seeing a massive island surfacing in the middle of the sea.
Great pictures, Blackandgold51. I would be interested in your assessment of the size, readiness, and capability of the present Russian navy as compared to its incarnation at the height of the Soviet era. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, there was some talk in the press about the Russian Black Sea Fleet "rusting" at anchor because Russia didn't have the money to maintain it properly. I would assume that trend has been reversed, but I haven't heard anything about it. Same question about their ground forces and air forces, if you know about them. Another assumption of mine is that the ground forces have been considerably down-sized as compared to the late 1980's. Is that true?
Great pictures, Blackandgold51. I would be interested in your assessment of the size, readiness, and capability of the present Russian navy as compared to its incarnation at the height of the Soviet era. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, there was some talk in the press about the Russian Black Sea Fleet "rusting" at anchor because Russia didn't have the money to maintain it properly. I would assume that trend has been reversed, but I haven't heard anything about it. Same question about their ground forces and air forces, if you know about them. Another assumption of mine is that the ground forces have been considerably down-sized as compared to the late 1980's. Is that true?
As far as know about the Russian Military(besides American Military) is yes it has since the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Also, as for the subs from Russia, there are a few subs which is the Akula I and II which is the Typhoon will be leased to the India Navy for ten years for about 650 Million Dollars.
In general, I've viewed the Russian habit to make things functional, cheap but not always safe to work best for things like tanks and rifles but less so for things like Subs and capital ships.
Curious how their safety track-record stands up to other modern navies over the past. I know the US has lost a few subs and the Russians too.
Interesting recap of the sinking of the Kursk can be found in Democratic Breakdown and the Decline of the Russian Military (2006) by Zoltan Barany. Basically the Russians had a lot of safety problems such as inadequate training and maintenance. An accidental explosion inside the Kursk resulted in its sinking, which was following by massive bungling, denials, cover-ups, and plain lies, including the lie that a collision with a NATO warship had caused the sinking. This incident occurred early in the first term of President Putin.
Interesting recap of the sinking of the Kursk can be found in Democratic Breakdown and the Decline of the Russian Military (2006) by Zoltan Barany. Basically the Russians had a lot of safety problems such as inadequate training and maintenance. An accidental explosion inside the Kursk resulted in its sinking, which was following by massive bungling, denials, cover-ups, and plain lies, including the lie that a collision with a NATO warship had caused the sinking. This incident occurred early in the first term of President Putin.
And don't forget the Neukrotimy, which they tried to convert to a submarine during a demo encounter with a "fake" mine.
Something I have heard and not sure if it's true or not - anyway apparently each Russian sub has a very large officer crew, the officers are the only ones who really do anything with the sub, the enlisted people are all draftees and only do chores like cooking and cleaning.
Contrasted with the US submariners - where the goal is that everybody knows how to do everything - or at least everything that can be critical to things like damage control.
Great pictures, Blackandgold51. I would be interested in your assessment of the size, readiness, and capability of the present Russian navy as compared to its incarnation at the height of the Soviet era. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, there was some talk in the press about the Russian Black Sea Fleet "rusting" at anchor because Russia didn't have the money to maintain it properly. I would assume that trend has been reversed, but I haven't heard anything about it. Same question about their ground forces and air forces, if you know about them. Another assumption of mine is that the ground forces have been considerably down-sized as compared to the late 1980's. Is that true?
Here's another answers to your question regarding the down-size of the Russian ground forces;
The CFE treaty reduced conventional arms in Europe significantly.
To about 80k pieces in total for each side. Split into 20k tanks, 20k
artillery pieces, 9000 air assets and 30k ACVs. The scope of the
treaty includes everything in continental Europe west of the Ural,
including the British Islands.
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