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Old 08-11-2012, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Fleet, liebknecht, is upset that germany didn't win in the Euro theater.
Yes, most likely! ;-)
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Old 08-11-2012, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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Scholarly stuff...They say the fog of war is intense and the first casualty is the truth. It appears that the fog might be thicker 6o years later...Just wondering - with the previous posts..are there really people out there typing this stuff out- paragraphs containing infinite detail of the events? Some sure have taken a lot of time in study- Does anyone have the simple answer- was the A bomb needed or not?
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:02 PM
 
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Scholarly stuff...They say the fog of war is intense and the first casualty is the truth. It appears that the fog might be thicker 6o years later...Just wondering - with the previous posts..are there really people out there typing this stuff out- paragraphs containing infinite detail of the events? Some sure have taken a lot of time in study- Does anyone have the simple answer- was the A bomb needed or not?
No, nobody has that answer.

Many claim to, but none do. So the endless posturing and pontificating will continue.

The goal was the unconditional surrender of Japan, who started the war. The "sub-goal" was to lose as few Americans as possible in achieving the goal. Unconditional surrender was desired ASAP, not after a protracted land assault. In the end, the use of the Atomic Bomb became - at the very least - the lesser of two evils.

Also, the fact that it sent a VERY clear message to the entire world about American military capability, was a bonus.
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:09 PM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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Why were the train tracks to Auschwitz not bombed? Just curious...
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:12 PM
 
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Why were the train tracks to Auschwitz not bombed? Just curious...
First of all, this is off topic.

Second, what would bombing the train tracks to Auschwitz have accomplished?
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Old 08-15-2012, 03:50 PM
 
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Scholarly stuff...They say the fog of war is intense and the first casualty is the truth. It appears that the fog might be thicker 6o years later...Just wondering - with the previous posts..are there really people out there typing this stuff out- paragraphs containing infinite detail of the events? Some sure have taken a lot of time in study- Does anyone have the simple answer- was the A bomb needed or not?
I believe the A Bomb ended the war saving thousands of lives on both sides.. Japan was prepared to continue fighting for a much longer time, knowing they would loose anyway.

One thing we don't see today is that back then no one really knew the radioactive parts as we do know.

I know this is true, no matter what anyone NOW, has to say about it, because I have around 6 antique 35 mm slides with my relatives standing in the wide open watching the dam thing going off. They are not even standing behind any cement walls!

So you get to decide if the A bomb was worth it, or not. Do any of the lives saved on both sides matter today?
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Old 08-15-2012, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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It was mass murder.
These people were not collateral damage.
This bombing was meant to kill as many people as possible.

Might I suggest that you go to the Hiroshima war memorial and tour the building and grounds.

How is anyone going to hear anything when an area is completely destroyed.

For those celebrating this, perhaps if it were your family, you might feel a little different.



I completely disagree.
How was that ever response in kind?
It wasn't.

The US always chooses to respond with I've got a bigger dick than you.

I hate war and death as much as anyone. Honest question-What SHOULD the US have done to end WWII?
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Old 08-15-2012, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Parts Unknown, Northern California
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I hate war and death as much as anyone. Honest question-What SHOULD the US have done to end WWII?
We should have bought em off. Bombarded Japan with sugar, cheap cars and electrical appliances .. gotten them all hooked on the decadent western lifestyle. Then with their moral fiber eroded, we threaten to cut off supplies of Hershey Bars, nylons and Jack Daniels...they surrender.
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Old 08-15-2012, 05:15 PM
 
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I hate war and death as much as anyone. Honest question-What SHOULD the US have done to end WWII?
Be nice to sent 4 men to duke it out with pistols or maybe swords eh? The pres and vice pres of each warring nation. I bet then these poly ticn leech SOB's would find a way to war in words instead of death.

But man just AIN"T that smart.
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Old 08-15-2012, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Parts Unknown, Northern California
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First of all, this is off topic.

Second, what would bombing the train tracks to Auschwitz have accomplished?
I agree that "first of all it is off topic."

If so, why is there a "second?" If it is off topic, why are you soliciting an elaboration?
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