COVID-19 Threat Level Back to Red - Now What? (Mart: live, restaurants)

[HouTXmetro]

Originally Posted by DabOnEm

Because you're going off a biased ny times poll instead of real stats on say, certain vax percentage by county and who they voted for. Even then the fact remains that the Black, Latine, and millenial groups have the lowest vax rates, and those groups tend to vote democrat. In the end this shouldnt be politicized.

Source? At least the other poster provided where he got his info from.

[DabOnEm]

Originally Posted by HouTXmetro

Source? At least the other poster provided where he got his info from.

You could have just typed in "covid vaccination rates by race" into google and a bunch of links will pop up for you, including this one: https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covi...ace-ethnicity/

[houston-nomad]

Originally Posted by DabOnEm

You could have just typed in "covid vaccination rates by race" into google and a bunch of links will pop up for you, including this one: https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covi...ace-ethnicity/

I just read this report. The trouble with the way you are interpreting it is that if the particular race makes up a small percentage of the total population of the US, their failure to vaccinate has less of an impact.

So, for example, from that same article, it says: "White people account for the largest share of people who remain unvaccinated (57%)"

So there may be more vaccine hesitancy among non-whites, but there are fewer of them, so the vaccine hesitancy among whites is a bigger problem. So sorry, you can't blame Black people for the current surge.

[WRM20]

Originally Posted by DabOnEm

You have been wrong though but it's okay. If you've been following real science that was censored instead of the tv scientists and "peer reviewed" articles, then you'd realize a lot of what the tv scientists are saying now was already said a year ago.

We already knew we wouldn't reach herd immunity of this virus with a vaccine, we already knew the most at risk would be the elderly/obese, we already knew natural immunity is 100x better, we already knew that ivermectin does well at combating covid19 early, we already knew the PCR tests can't detect covid vs influenza let alone between coronaviruses themselves, among several other things.

Your "commenting in passing" is comes off like you know it all. When it comes to data I will give you your kudos, but when it comes to what's been happening with this pandemic, you should probably back up what you're saying like you do data because yes, you've been pretty incorrect like most people have this past year. I will give you credit on coming around on the obesity thing with covid.

And I guess we have different ideas of lockdowns. When beaches are closed, and certain businesses are closed for no reason (not backed by data), on top of all the hour reduction and future passports, then I consider it a lockdown.

Don't go there. You literally proclaim yourself as the data expert on this website. What do you look for when you say that?

Natural immunity carries a death rate something like 100 times higher than the vaccines. So, no, I would not depend on natural immunity, that's stupidly weak thinking. Would you have depended on natural immunity against smallpox? Polio? Diphtheria? Tetanus? Didn't think so.

Ivermectin is BS. There is not one reputable double blind study showing that ivermectin or HCQ work against Covid.

[DabOnEm]

Originally Posted by houston-nomad

I just read this report. The trouble with the way you are interpreting it is that if the particular race makes up a small percentage of the total population of the US, their failure to vaccinate has less of an impact.

So, for example, from that same article, it says: "White people account for the largest share of people who remain unvaccinated (57%)"

So there may be more vaccine hesitancy among non-whites, but there are fewer of them, so the vaccine hesitancy among whites is a bigger problem. So sorry, you can't blame Black people for the current surge.

I said Blacks, Hispanics, and millenials have the lowest vaccination rates. That is true. No one is blamong Blacks for anything. The reason why many Blacks arent is because they dont trust the government (Hispanics too). Only reason why it's increased lately is because of coercion like losing one's job if not vaccinated.

Originally Posted by WRM20

Natural immunity carries a death rate something like 100 times higher than the vaccines. So, no, I would not depend on natural immunity, that's stupidly weak thinking. Would you have depended on natural immunity against smallpox? Polio? Diphtheria? Tetanus? Didn't think so.

Ivermectin is BS. There is not one reputable double blind study showing that ivermectin or HCQ work against Covid.

Well all of last year people were catching covid and for those under 70 it amounted to a 99.98% survival rate. And the natural immunity covers all the spike proteins versus just the one with the vaccine. Natural immunity has always been the best immunity in the healthcare field.

There's plenty of studies showing ivermectin work. There is simply no money to be made with it or hcq because they are decades old and cant be patented. There are essentially making an ivermectin pill that'll cost hundreds of dollars when they hit the market. This is a big money grab by big pharma.

And yes there are several trials going on right now. Did you look it up before saying there were no trials or did you just assume because the news doesnt mention it unless you look yourself? Got to do your own research: https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/new...nt-cases-rise/

Fewer ivermectin patients developed respiratory distress (2.6 percent vs. 15.8 percent); fewer required oxygen (9.6 percent vs. 45.9 percent); fewer required antibiotics (15.7 percent vs. 60.2 percent); and fewer entered intensive care (0.1 percent vs. 8.3 percent). Ivermectin-treated patients tested negative faster, in four days instead of 15, and stayed in the hospital nine days on average instead of 15. Ivermectin patients experienced 13.3 percent mortality compared with 24.5 percent in the control Group.

Moreover, the drug can help prevent Covid-19. One 2020 article in Biochemical and*Biophysical Research Communications looked at what happened after the drug was given to family members of confirmed Covid-19 patients. Less than 8 percent became infected, versus 58.4 percent of those untreated. Among 200 healthcare workers and others at high risk of exposure, only 2 percent of those given ivermectin developed Covid-19. But 10 percent of the control group did.”

They cite the American Journal of Therapeutics. “Out of four billion doses administered since 1998, there have been only 28 cases of serious neurological adverse events.”

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On the other hand, I consider the mental health epidemic to be very serious.

[osnapo]

Originally Posted by houston-nomad

I am back to wearing a mask, even though I'm vaccinated. My kid's school experiences planned for this year are starting to get cancelled. Thanks a lot, GOP. All you had to do was encourage vaccination, but no. It's more important to get a good seat on the Trump Train.

How many times have Democrat leaders been busted breaking their own lockdown and mask requirements? How many GOP leaders sent covid infected patients into nursing homes killing thousands of people? Under what Democrat President did the DOJ drop all investigations into nursing home deaths? Under what Democrat president is the southern border wide open during a pandemic at the same time telling American citizens to stay home and mask up? Was it GOP members who boarded a plane with no masks, fled to DC to protest the TX election bill then got sick with covid? How many Democrats questioned the vaccine under Trump, and the VP saying she wouldn't take it? Who constantly gets busted without wearing masks, yet on TV tell us all to wear them? Its Democrats. You can cry all you want, the GOP has been consistent with their stance on policy while your democrats have lied to the point that they lost all credibility. I blame democrats 110% for creating this mess. And after all. This is Biden's America now. Trump has been out of office for 8 months now.

[osnapo]

Originally Posted by As Above So Below...

Yes, but they don’t show up in huge numbers outside of the types of places I mentioned. No one said they weren’t there at all. The response was to a poster who is trying to blame the Covid upsurge on illegal immigrants.

It take ONE infected person to start a pandemic. ONE. Do you understand that? So now the science doesn't matter when it threatens your ideology huh? How about taking 1.2 million people and just 10% of them are covid infected, and you seed them across the entire US. Are you saying that its impossible they didn't contribute to this? You can't even admit it. Its the unvaccinated people's fault. Trump supporters. Give me a break. Hey look over here!!! Don't look over there!!!

[nana053]

Originally Posted by osnapo

How many times have Democrat leaders been busted breaking their own lockdown and mask requirements? How many GOP leaders sent covid infected patients into nursing homes killing thousands of people? Under what Democrat President did the DOJ drop all investigations into nursing home deaths? Under what Democrat president is the southern border wide open during a pandemic at the same time telling American citizens to stay home and mask up? Was it GOP members who boarded a plane with no masks, fled to DC to protest the TX election bill then got sick with covid? How many Democrats questioned the vaccine under Trump, and the VP saying she wouldn't take it? Who constantly gets busted without wearing masks, yet on TV tell us all to wear them? Its Democrats. You can cry all you want, the GOP has been consistent with their stance on policy while your democrats have lied to the point that they lost all credibility. I blame democrats 110% for creating this mess. And after all. This is Biden's America now. Trump has been out of office for 8 months now.

50 Democrats went to Washington- 6 tested positive for covid

Abbott wants to arrest those who left the state.

Masklessness fact check

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL2N2ND1RD

A widely shared video on social media shows Democrat lawmakers gathering without face masks or social distancing, with some users suggesting the footage is evidence they are ignoring public health guidance amid the COVID-19 pandemic. But the clip is missing key context: it was taken days after the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) updated previous advice and said fully vaccinated people could stop wearing face coverings and social distancing in most settings.

The GOP is consistent, but consistently wrong.

[ninbud]

74 people in Martha's Vineyard have tested positive for Covid since Obama's 60th birthday bash