He’s Only Here to Work (legal, employment, wage, American)
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As long as you follow market forces, you stand a better chance to reduce the problem. As far as a lopsided system...that's already here.
An increase in Diversity Visas would potentially alleviate the problem. They could get preference.
Which basically does nothing but increase overall immigration and nothing to stop illegal immigration, especially poor peasants within walking distance.
Which basically does nothing but increase overall immigration and nothing to stop illegal immigration, especially poor peasants within walking distance.
It increase legal immigration and decreased illegal immigration.Crossing illegally is not without risk. If the cost of entrance is deemed smaller than that risk, more people will come legally.
In any civil debate the rule of thumb is to not attack the messenger but the message instead. That is what we anti-illegals did initially since this issue came to the forefront in this country. However, when the other side does the reverse and we counter and defend ourselves we are accused of being the ones who started it instead and that they are the victims. I have seen these tactics used time and time again in many blogs and forums by the pro-illegals. Best to ignore these kinds of people.
If he is a convicted felon, I believe he should be deported. However, he obviously is not characteristic of the majority of illegal immigrants that already live here. So I guess if you commit a serious offense you should get deported. If not, there should be a path to being documented if you came here illegally.
What other special privileges should line jumpers receive? Perhaps we should create a special superduper citizenship for illegal migrants? You know one where they get to break not only immigration laws but other laws as well?
Since we're writing about the need to allow migrant lawbreakers special rights why not extend them other extrajudicial rights as well? Hey give them the right to avoid paying taxes or the right to become a public charge and go on welfare. After all they jumped the line and we owe them!
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Originally Posted by Califreeman
He should be deported if he committed a serious offense.
Also, the whole "spending the time to immigrate" is exactly why we need to change the laws. My mom almost died waiting (medical complications, they lost her visa paperwork). My friend's dad hand was cut off because the consulate lost his paperwork (he left because he angered his home regime). The wait times are too ridiculous.
Why not a wholesale change of the system?
Because the three hundred million Americans of the world can't take sole responsibility for the problems of the seven billion people of the world?
Because we already let in millions of people each year legally? Because the American taxpayer does not have a responsibility to solve your personal problems?
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Originally Posted by Califreeman
There still can by the Diversity Immigrant Visa to offset those concerns. You can increase the cap from its current 50,000.
We really don't need anymore people here let in solely because they're from an obscure place. The doors have been opened since 1965. Shut them down for a while and give American society a chance to absorb the newcomers.
Let American needs finally take priority over the needs of Mexican peasants and greedy employers who want to bargain down wages as low as possible.
There was a goofball in northern CA where we lived that was not even handicapped and he sued and sued and made great money suing on ADA issues until the courts finally said enough and refused to hear him any more. He even ended up in jail for a short period of time for filing false charges.
In any civil debate the rule of thumb is to not attack the messenger but the message instead. That is what we anti-illegals did initially since this issue came to the forefront in this country. However, when the other side does the reverse and we counter and defend ourselves we are accused of being the ones who started it instead and that they are the victims. I have seen these tactics used time and time again in many blogs and forums by the pro-illegals. Best to ignore these kinds of people.
Some people like to argue for the sake of arguing and then there are others that carry it to an extreme. They get a strange pleasure from seeing others get upset or irate even if they know they're no longer making any sense. I've been on the Internet a long time and have seen this for many years to know that Trolls and Flamers are everywhere and seek out places where they can start trouble and fights. City-Data Forums is an attractive place for them.
They seriously need mental help and I'm sure they're not too pleasant to be around in real life.
In any civil debate the rule of thumb is to not attack the messenger but the message instead. That is what we anti-illegals did initially since this issue came to the forefront in this country. However, when the other side does the reverse and we counter and defend ourselves we are accused of being the ones who started it instead and that they are the victims. I have seen these tactics used time and time again in many blogs and forums by the pro-illegals. Best to ignore these kinds of people.
Very nice post chicagonut. Had he even answered one of the simple questions asked we might of had a very respectful and healthy debate.
But he used the tatics as you have described.
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