Can we stop the abuse of the 14th amendment by illegal aliens? (Americans, citizenship)
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End quote. Dave Gibson didn't reduce it to just birthright citizenship, nor should we. He also didn't bring up "Birth Tourism" (assumed to be under valid B2 "tourist" visas, and thus not an "illegal alien" mother), so some other posts on the topic are out-of-place.
Also, the unbolded sentence is incredibly juvenile...
Of course an article on Birthright Citizenship would include the actual clause. However, that doesn’t change the topic of THIS thread.
...apparently to divert attention from actually discussing the topic.
Anyone with elementary comprhension skills realized that this thread, located in the "illegal immigration" forum, was and is supposed to talk about abuse of birthright citizenship for the purposes of receiving social welfare benefits.
Wouldn't that really make this abuse of the social welfare system?
So when someone announces here on the forum that the 14th Amendment should be voided, everyone can relax that Due Process or Equal Protection is not at risk? Talk of "Birth Tourism" is also out-of-place on this particular topic, unless the off-site article covered it as well? Of course not that any topics have "evolved" from the OP before (that must be the reason for as many duplicate posts too).
I suspected your account had been hijacked on this second paragraph. Get real, this is the enormous elephant in the room. My post #36 would have got me over 10 rep points if I was specific other members here instead.
Doesn't birth tourism also equate to anchor babies?
I have no idea what you are talking about in your last paragraph. I was merely responding to your remarks implying that we anti's want "unrestrained" enforcement of our immigration laws even if it doesn't fall within our rules of following the law to do so.
Of course an article on Birthright Citizenship would include the actual clause. However, that doesn’t change the topic of THIS thread.
Of course an article on the abuse of the 14th Amendment (titled as such) would include the entire clause...
Or am I also to assume that (off-forum) Dave Gibson can't title his articles correctly, and although quoting an entire passage, "feigns ignorance" that it is only about a particular section?...
So citizens committing welfare fraud might as well be discussed as fraudulently exploiting their birthright citizenship, then.
Sure, but we have an obligation to deal with them because they are indigenously "ours."
If I have a deadbeat son my obligation to him is understood as a given. I do not have to also raise and feed and clothe the children of squatters in my spare bedroom because the law says I need to take care of all children in my household.
...Anyone with elementary comprhension skills realized that this thread, located in the "illegal immigration" forum, was and is supposed to talk about abuse of birthright citizenship for the purposes of receiving social welfare benefits.
Ok, put another way, let's take an example of an unmarried citizen mother doesn't otherwise qualify for welfare, until she has a baby. Obtaining welfare benefits through that child can be misused in the same manner, but isn't a question of fraud stemming from the baby's "birthright citizenship"? Why should I as a taxpayer, be on the hook more for a U.S. citizen committing fraud in the same way as an illegal alien mother?
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