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Old 11-08-2012, 01:52 PM
 
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If only the idol of the GOP secured the border way back then. I'm talking about that stalwart of American conservatism, a true American hero, the one and only amnesty loving Ronald Reagan . He could have secured the border after he passed amnesty, but he didn't. Blame Reagan for setting the US on the path its on now, ironically.
He was promised by congress that it would be secured. Congress failed him and he lived to regret signing that amnesty. It was also promised that there would never be another amnesty and look what has happened long after he left office and died.
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Old 11-08-2012, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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I am not hardliner on immigration but I certainly am on illegal immigration. If we have only bark and no bite why hasn't congress passed an amnesty or the Dream Act? It is because of our bite (input) that it hasn't.
You've got that right. And, we will bite again, only much, much harder.

I think illegals and their supporters are under the impression Obama's victory equals an amnesty mandate. They don't realize many people who voted for him (including some Hispanics) also vehemently oppose illegal immigration. Let him try to pass amnesty.

Dreamies had better be thankful for DACA, because that is all they will get.
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Old 11-08-2012, 02:25 PM
 
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You've got that right. And, we will bite again, only much, much harder.

I think illegals and their supporters are under the impression Obama's victory equals an amnesty mandate. They don't realize many people who voted for him (including some Hispanics) also vehemently oppose illegal immigration. Let him try to pass amnesty.

Dreamies had better be thankful for DACA, because that is all they will get.
Unless Obama plans on pulling another fast one he will never get it through congress but he can tell Hispanics "well at least I tried".
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Old 11-08-2012, 02:56 PM
 
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I have noticed this also. Everytime I turn on the news it is all about the Hispanic vote and how the GOP will have to give them what they want in the future (amnesty) or they are dead in the water. Disgusting! So now our politicians are to be blackmailed by a certain group?
Yep, in a nutshell. It's been like that non stop since the election results came in. At the rate the media is going, according to them we will all have no choice but to learn and speak only spanish as well as do whatever the "hispanic" population tells us to do. As for Obama, he's a rich man and his daughters will not be affected by the "shift" in America's cultural and racial make up. I feel horrible that our children will have to live in what will become a 3rd world country that was sold out from under them for votes. So much so, that I hope to be dead and gone before the 3rd world metamorphosis takes place.
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Old 11-08-2012, 03:36 PM
 
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The hardliners on immigration have no clout or political power. They are all bark but no bite!!
You're right: the pro illegal alien immigration people have no bite.
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Old 11-08-2012, 03:38 PM
 
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Yep, in a nutshell. It's been like that non stop since the election results came in. At the rate the media is going, according to them we will all have no choice but to learn and speak only spanish as well as do whatever the "hispanic" population tells us to do. As for Obama, he's a rich man and his daughters will not be affected by the "shift" in America's cultural and racial make up. I feel horrible that our children will have to live in what will become a 3rd world country that was sold out from under them for votes. So much so, that I hope to be dead and gone before the 3rd world metamorphosis takes place.
PR1: it aint over just yet. Going by Obama's record 2008 to 2012; he hasn't done much for illegal aliens except for DACA.
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Old 11-08-2012, 03:44 PM
 
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PR1: it aint over just yet. Going by Obama's record 2008 to 2012; he hasn't done much for illegal aliens except for DACA.
Obama is between a rock and a hard place. He needs to placate latino voters somehow, but he doesn't want to lose the support of his corporate sponsors that rely on illegal immigrant labor to sustain themselves. Who knows, maybe Obama and the Democrats will just give lip service to the latino community and throw them under the bus like he does with the black community, knowing that he has their vote in his back pocket no matter what he does and the liberal media will not dare criticize a sitting Democrat president, especially the first black one. The latino community wants legalization, his corporate sponsors wants them to continue to be illegal. Once legalized, their source of cheap labor is gone, and thus the need to import more and more
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Old 11-08-2012, 03:57 PM
 
Location: USA
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They honestly don't think black or white votes counted in any way or had any effect on this election. On Mexican radio stations they are claiming that the Mexican vote is what has gotten Obama into the White House twice now.

Maybe they're right? Maybe all the votes made by white and black Americans were tossed into a shredder and it only matters how the illegals and other "latinos" voted. That's how even the media makes it seem.
Lets see. Obama got the:

Black vote
Hispanic vote
Youth vote
Muslim vote
Asian vote
Jewish vote
Poor vote
Union Vote
Single woman vote
And even a good percentage of the White male and Married female vote.

How he did not win by a land slide is beyond me
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Old 11-08-2012, 04:09 PM
 
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Lets see. Obama got the:

Black vote
Hispanic vote
Youth vote
Muslim vote
Asian vote
Jewish vote
Poor vote
Union Vote
Single woman vote
And even a good percentage of the White male and Married female vote.

How he did not win by a land slide is beyond me
He won with almost the same margin was Bush did in 2004, 50% plus a few tenths of a percent. Romney lost with 48%, as did John Kerry
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Old 11-08-2012, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Sacramento, Ca.
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Latino groups to Obama: You owe Latinos the election, now pass immigration reform | The Ticket - Yahoo! News

So, Obama "owes" Latinos amnesty? Do tell. I wonder what he owes the millions of non-Hispanic voters whose votes gave him a second term.
This just proves that Tears for Fears song from the 80's: "Everybody wants to rule the world.' And makes me wonder if Latinos only voted for Obama over Romney just to push their ethnocentric agendas, as white people accuse blacks of? Obama owes the entire country. All of us. Not just your latino, black or other vote that does not buy him as your union rep.
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