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Old 01-04-2008, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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To be on topic. My guess is most Dems are more worried about Iraq, Terrorism Healthcare, and the economy. The immigrant issue while I think important does pale when you think about the other issues. They are largely docile and simply want to make money to survive. That said, they need to pay taxes like the rest of us.
I would agree with you with one change: Regardless of party affiliation (or no party in the case of independents), the same concerns, about the same issues, apply.
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Old 01-04-2008, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Eagan, Minnesota
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Let me ask you this: Are you suggesting that all big business owners, and all CEO's of Fortune 500 companies, all vote Republican? That they are Republicans (registered)?
Suggesting? Who do you think people like Stan O'Neal or Charles Prince vote for?! Barrack Obama?! The perfect example of the Republican voting CEO is Mitt Romney, of course, a person like him would vote Republican! No party has created more tax loopholes and reduced tax burden/capital gains taxation for the wealthy than the GOP. Also, "patriotic" Republicans like Romney do not send their kids to Iraq, they send them to Yale, Harvard or Princeton, while the poor, uneducated sympathizers are doing all the dirty work in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc
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Old 01-04-2008, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
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Suggesting? Who do you think people like Stan O'Neal or Charles Prince vote for?! Barrack Obama?! The perfect example of the Republican voting CEO is Mitt Romney, of course, a person like him would vote Republican! No party has created more tax loopholes and reduced tax burden/capital gains taxation for the wealthy than the GOP. Also, "patriotic" Republicans like Romney do not send their kids to Iraq, they send them to Yale, Harvard or Princeton, while the poor, uneducated sympathizers are doing all the dirty work in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc
History loves to repeat itself. If you have money you can almost always buy freedom and this lesson gets taught to the children of the rich. Like, when Paris got dragged into to Jail and cried for her Mom.
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Old 01-04-2008, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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Please provide proof that all CEO's of Fortune 500 companies, all Presidents of Large Companies are Republicans and vote Republican.

And, let me also ask you to check your statement that "they do not send their kids to Iraq". I'll give you a head start - check out the status of John McCains son

And, I take very personally your attack on my son - who is on his 5th tour in the ME - he is not a "poor, uneducated sympathizers"

I DEMAND an apology - not only to me but to all the others on this board who's children are in the ME serving with honor and distinction!

APOLOGIZE
Where the hell does this uneducated poor crap come in. because we fight for our country!!!!!!! So now if you are military you are poor and dumb!!!! Where's my bat!?!
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Old 01-04-2008, 03:56 PM
 
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where do you get that, from the little Iowa caucus. yea ok, that determines the outcome.
Tell me why the hell ALL democratic candidates support as you call it "amnesty". Do you think they would do that if immigration was as important to their base as it is to the republican base?
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Old 01-04-2008, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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Tell me why the hell ALL democratic candidates support as you call it "amnesty". Do you think they would do that if immigration was as important to their base as it is to the republican base?
Because they are spineless and only care about making money!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-04-2008, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Tell me why the hell ALL democratic candidates support as you call it "amnesty". Do you think they would do that if immigration was as important to their base as it is to the republican base?
Ah, but they don't.

Most now support allowing the illegal to return to their country of origin and to allow for an expedited application to return -

RETURN to their country of origin - many are already doing that it seems.

Perhaps they will return, the "right" way. If they do, they will be welcomed
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Old 01-04-2008, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
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Tell me why the hell ALL democratic candidates support as you call it "amnesty". Do you think they would do that if immigration was as important to their base as it is to the republican base?
Can you be sure that repubs want to stop illegals? How will the Bush family get their laundry done?
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Old 01-04-2008, 04:04 PM
 
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Ah, but they don't.

Most now support allowing the illegal to return to their country of origin and to allow for an expedited application to return -

RETURN to their country of origin - many are already doing that it seems.

Perhaps they will return, the "right" way. If they do, they will be welcomed
They all support the CIR in the senate and that bill would have allowed qualified illegal immigrants to stay here. LOL, spin it anyway you want but the democratic base care more about iraq, economy, healthcare, education than they do about illegal immigration. Is that so hard for you guys to accept?
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Old 01-04-2008, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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I had also been a life-long Democrat; and never in my wildest dreams considered voting for a Republican. The open borders agenda of the Dems, and the nauseating pandering to illegals, have been the impetus for changing my party affiliation from Democrat to Independent. I refuse to vote for anyone who will not secure our borders, and end this illegal invasion. Nor will I vote for an amnesty apologist.

The polls are skewed; there are many Dems and former Dems who share my stance on illegal immigration. We are not uneducated and ignorant, nor are we racists. Why do you persist in vilifying all opposed to illegal immigration?

Furthermore, there are uneducated, ignorant and racist individuals residing in all 50 states. I would also be interested in reputable data delineating education, ignorance and bigotry by region /red vs. blue/ Dem vs. GOP. What is your reference source?

I am also offended by your Iraq comment. It is appalling, and an affront to all of our brave troops who have fought and died there.
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