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Old 12-13-2016, 07:25 AM
 
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Originally Posted by pknopp View Post
When you give up one right they move to take the next. The worse part is that it will NOT solve anything and the courts will not allow it at that.
Lol...

If if was stopped for an offense and I was suspected of being illegal....not having an id ssn and parents that didn't exist I might be an illegal alien

 
Old 12-13-2016, 07:27 AM
 
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Everyone.
Nonsense.

Absolute BULL****
 
Old 12-13-2016, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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As pointed out before crime rates go up if you remove the illegal aliens. So if you are worried about crime against your family you want legalization.




Where was that pointed out?
 
Old 12-13-2016, 08:46 AM
 
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Right, illegal aliens are going to magically stop committing crimes if they are legalized. WTH?
 
Old 12-13-2016, 04:27 PM
 
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Right, illegal aliens are going to magically stop committing crimes if they are legalized. WTH?
These people are deranged
 
Old 12-13-2016, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Yep.

Now please explain what you said in detail
So you should understand how stop and frisk and racial profiling can very easily cross the 4th, 5th, even 6th amendment of American citizens on your quest to rid the US illegal immigrants in an expedited manner.

I'm not interested in your vision of a stronger police state.
 
Old 12-13-2016, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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These people are deranged
These people understand the situation and are not off in the myths of the antis.

No you cannot stop and question someone and demand identification because you think he is an illegal. Ole Sheriff Joe may well go to jail for doing just that.
 
Old 12-13-2016, 05:58 PM
 
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So you should understand how stop and frisk and racial profiling can very easily cross the 4th, 5th, even 6th amendment of American citizens on your quest to rid the US illegal immigrants in an expedited manner.

I'm not interested in your vision of a stronger police state.

Who's advocating for that not under lawful contact?
 
Old 12-13-2016, 06:34 PM
 
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So you should understand how stop and frisk and racial profiling can very easily cross the 4th, 5th, even 6th amendment of American citizens on your quest to rid the US illegal immigrants in an expedited manner.

I'm not interested in your vision of a stronger police state.
No no no no. You said it would violate people's rights. You explain in detail how.

You're not getting away from this one.
 
Old 12-13-2016, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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No no no no. You said it would violate people's rights. You explain in detail how.

You're not getting away from this one.
There is no capability to stop and question anyone except for an articuable suspicion a crime has occurred or is about to. And then an officer has the rights to demand only the persons name. There is no ability for a police officer to demand documents or information about legal status. The officer can ask but the person is not under any duty to answer. The officer can of course make an illegal arrest...but he can always do that. Just so long as the jurisdiction is willing to pay the cost for an illegal arrest.

Any such arrest is a violation of the 4th amendment and possibly the 5th..
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