Im sick of the "we cant deport 11 million" comments (polls, biased)
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There would be no expansion of powers either. Cops already have the right to detain illegals and call ICE to pick them up but the federal government has tied their hands. Obama told Homeland Security and ICE not to detain or deport any illegals unless they are "convicted" criminals. The expansion of power was on Obama.
Yep. 35 more days until this regime is gone. It will bring a tear to my eye
Actually, those of us who are for the rule of law have the most vile insults thrown at us. Racist, xenophobic, white nationalists, hater etc. The list goes on and on. Why can't both sides of this issue debate with civility?
I stick mostly with lacking understanding and logical abilities. These amazing ability to believe in myths. Right up there with the followers of Jim Jones.
It appears there is no possible way to convince them that the experience since the late 1980s has any bearing. So they continue to beieve that if you just click the heels on your red shoes the illegals will vanish.
It would of course be possible to launch a massive and expensive attack on the illegal immigrants and in time remove them...or at least give it a good try. But you are talking about tens of billions and many years. And you do so without support from most of the citizens.
So the true believers will hang in there with a logically and socially impossible goal and in doing so will leave the system vulnrable to a new surge.
Stupidity is the big problem. Though other factors certainly hide behind a patriotic facade.
What makes you think that finding illegal aliens under "lawful contact" would in any way infringe on the right's of American citizens? That sounds like something that the supporters of illegal aliens always claim because they don't want illegals deported. Cops are trained they know how far they can go and to stay within the laws of this country. Not saying there aren't a few bad apples but most adhere to the rules. As a citizen of this country I would fully cooperate with the cops because it's for the good of all of us and I wouldn't take it as an infringement on my rights.
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Reasonable suspicion is the legal standard by which a police officer has the right to briefly detain a suspect for investigatory purposes and frisk the outside of their clothing for weapons, but not drugs. While many factors contribute to a police officer’s level of authority in a given situation, the reasonable suspicion standard requires facts or circumstances that would lead a reasonable person to believe that a suspect has, is, or will commit a crime.
While reasonable suspicion does not require hard evidence, it does require more than a hunch. A combination of particular facts, even if each is individually insignificant, can form the basis of reasonable suspicion. For example, police may have reasonable suspicion to detain someone who fits a description of a criminal suspect, a suspect who drops a suspicious object after seeing police, or a suspect in a high crime area who runs after seeing police. What reasonable suspicion means to you
Because reasonable suspicion gives officers legal authority to detain you, the absence of reasonable suspicion does not require officers to tell you that you’re free to leave. They will often use your uncertainty as an opportunity to ask probing questions even if the conversation is legally “voluntary”.
In such situations, it’s up to you to determine if you’re being detained or are free to go. Before answering an officer’s questions, you may courteously ask “Officer, am I free to go?” If you’re free to go, then go. If the officer’s answer is unclear or he asks additional questions, you may persist by repeating “Officer, am I free to go?”
Keep in mind that refusing to answer an officers questions does not create reasonable suspicion. But acting nervous and answering questions inconsistently can create reasonable suspicion. Also, you have the 4th Amendment right to refuse search requests, and your refusal does not create reasonable suspicion.
If you are not free to go, you are being detained. The officer might have some reason to suspect you of a crime, and you may be arrested. In such a situation, your magic words are “I’m going to remain silent. I would like to see a lawyer.” These magic words are like a legal condom. Because anything you say can and will be used against you in court, they’re your best protection if you’re under arrest.
OP, under your new America where local police are dissolved and replaced with Federal Police, would possible illegal immigrant fall under "reasonable suspicion"?
I stick mostly with lacking understanding and logical abilities. These amazing ability to believe in myths. Right up there with the followers of Jim Jones.
It appears there is no possible way to convince them that the experience since the late 1980s has any bearing. So they continue to beieve that if you just click the heels on your red shoes the illegals will vanish.
It would of course be possible to launch a massive and expensive attack on the illegal immigrants and in time remove them...or at least give it a good try. But you are talking about tens of billions and many years. And you do so without support from most of the citizens.
So the true believers will hang in there with a logically and socially impossible goal and in doing so will leave the system vulnrable to a new surge.
Stupidity is the big problem. Though other factors certainly hide behind a patriotic facade.
OP, under your new America where local police are dissolved and replaced with Federal Police, would possible illegal immigrant fall under "reasonable suspicion"?
There will still be local police. I'm talking about giving them authority to investigate immigration status for those arrested for offenses that show signs of possibly being illegal
But of course most of the antis lack the ability to read a simple graph.
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